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The Nazis established a massive, systemic and vicious program for the complete annihilation of any "enemy" of the aryan race, and by "enemy" we are talking abou
by eyalm 8y ago
The Nazis established a massive, systemic and vicious program for the complete annihilation of any "enemy" of the aryan race, and by "enemy" we are talking about innocent jews, Romani and many more (although, the complete annihilation of the jewish people was it's main target). You may know this as the "Final Solution". I'm not aware of any event in modern human history that resembles the scale, the intent, the execution level and the pure evil that makes the final solution program.
This does not mean that other atrocities done by any other group of people (including the "allies") are not horrific and should not be condemned or remembered. But, the final solution should always be remembered as an extreme, unique and singular event in modern human history.
- adamnemecek 8y ago> I'm not aware of any event in modern human history that resembles the scale, the intent, the execution level and the pure evil that makes the final solution program. Again, there's for example the Bengali famine. > But, the final solution should always be remembered as an extreme, unique and singular event in modern human history. If you consider singular events maybe. Other countries did it slower and over longer periods and there were multiple events. Idk if efficacy really makes a moral difference to me. If you consider modern history maybe. However the problem with this formulation is that modern history generally starts around WW2 so in some sense, holocaust was the last event of this colonial style of thinking.
- __sr__ 8y ago> I'm not aware of any event in modern human history that resembles the scale, the intent, the execution level and the pure evil that makes the final solution program. Read the history of Indian subcontinent from around 1000 AD to 1947 AD. Events of the same magnitude as the holocast (or worse) happend again and again. Read about the ‘conquests’ of the likes of Mahmood Ghaznavi, Muhammad of Ghor, Taimur the Lame, Ahmad Shah Durrani, Nader Shah, Mughals and countless others. Read about the atrocities committed by them to the people they conquered and tell me that the Nazi holocast was a singular event.
- adamnemecek 8y ago> Read the history of Indian subcontinent from around 1000 AD to 1947 AD. Can you recommend any books?
- __sr__ 8y agoYou can start with Wikipedia[1]. I’ve read more then a few books over the years — I’ll find some for you. [1] I know Wikipedia is not the best source, but it should give you some idea of what I am talking about. Here are some links: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_campaign_of_Ahmad_Shah_Durrani https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_campaign_of_Ahmad_Sha... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nader_Shah%27s_invasion_of_the_Mughal_Empire https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nader_Shah%27s_invasion_of_t... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmud_of_Ghazni#Ghaznavid_campaigns_in_Indian_Subcontinent https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmud_of_Ghazni#Ghaznavid_c... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Hindus https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Hindus
- adamnemecek 8y agoI was aware of some of this but will check it out further.
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- __sr__ 8y agoHere is a book about something that happened as recently as 1971 — https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blood_Telegram:_Nixon,_Kissinger,_and_a_Forgotten_Genocide https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blood_Telegram:_Nixon,_K...
- adamnemecek 8y agoLooks like something I should know about. Bought the book.
- __sr__ 8y agoAnd here is something that happened in the “Modern” world — circa 1971. May not be at the same scale as the Nazi Holocast, but no less horrifying. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blood_Telegram:_Nixon,_Kissinger,_and_a_Forgotten_Genocide https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blood_Telegram:_Nixon,_K... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archer_Blood#The_Blood_telegram https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archer_Blood#The_Blood_teleg...