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I don't like how they call it "the sensation of touch," when it's really just the illusion of touch.

gjm11 16y ago
> The technology consists of software that uses ultrasonic waves to create pressure on the hand of a user "touching" the projected hologram. How do you suppose putting pressure on the hand creates the illusion of touch, other than by the sensation of touch? Would anything, for you, count as the sensation (and not merely the illusion) of touch, other than having an actual solid object there?
- basicxman 16y ago
  My point is you wouldn't actually 'feel' it, therefore you wouldn't get back the 'sensation' of touching something. Yes you would _see_ a response, but you would not _feel_ the response. Ergo, illusion. EDIT: For your enjoyment, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasonic_sensor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasonic_sensor, you simply do not feel ultrasonic sound waves.
  - jules 16y ago
    No, the whole point of the thing is that you can feel it (or at least they claim you can).
  - tkahn6 16y ago
    Did you not see the paper being moved?
  - sliverstorm 16y ago
    Have you never heard of the phantom limb phenomenon in amputees?
- hugh3 16y ago
  The distinction seems a little iffy, but I can see how there's a difference between the sensation of touch and the illusion of touch. You get the illusion because you're expecting to feel the sensation of touch and you feel something, however if you were to really sit there and analyze what you're feeling you'd realise that it isn't quite the same as the actual touch sensation. It's like the old ice-cigarette trick -- you pretend you're going to burn someone on the back of the neck with a cigarette, but instead you touch them with a piece of ice. They'll get the illusion of heat from the actual sensation of cold, because... well, our brains are dumb sometimes.
  - sliverstorm 16y ago
    Well, that and extreme cold can feel a lot like a burning sensation.
sekou 16y ago
Yeah, it isn't real. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA3WGf9pX0A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA3WGf9pX0A

gjm11 16y ago

> The technology consists of software that uses ultrasonic waves to create pressure on the hand of a user "touching" the projected hologram. How do you suppose putting pressure on the hand creates the illusion of touch, other than by the sensation of touch? Would anything, for you, count as the sensation (and not merely the illusion) of touch, other than having an actual solid object there?

basicxman 16y ago
My point is you wouldn't actually 'feel' it, therefore you wouldn't get back the 'sensation' of touching something. Yes you would _see_ a response, but you would not _feel_ the response. Ergo, illusion. EDIT: For your enjoyment, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasonic_sensor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasonic_sensor, you simply do not feel ultrasonic sound waves.
- jules 16y ago
  No, the whole point of the thing is that you can feel it (or at least they claim you can).
- tkahn6 16y ago
  Did you not see the paper being moved?
- sliverstorm 16y ago
  Have you never heard of the phantom limb phenomenon in amputees?
hugh3 16y ago
The distinction seems a little iffy, but I can see how there's a difference between the sensation of touch and the illusion of touch. You get the illusion because you're expecting to feel the sensation of touch and you feel something, however if you were to really sit there and analyze what you're feeling you'd realise that it isn't quite the same as the actual touch sensation. It's like the old ice-cigarette trick -- you pretend you're going to burn someone on the back of the neck with a cigarette, but instead you touch them with a piece of ice. They'll get the illusion of heat from the actual sensation of cold, because... well, our brains are dumb sometimes.
- sliverstorm 16y ago
  Well, that and extreme cold can feel a lot like a burning sensation.

sekou 16y ago

Yeah, it isn't real. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA3WGf9pX0A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA3WGf9pX0A