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Ask HN: So, what did you think of the Social Network?
I was surprisingly entertained. The coding sessions and tech speak were obviously my favorite part.
- lzw 16y agoI thought it was a very well made movie, and Fincher has a way with these kind of scripts that lack a traditional story arc that leaves them compelling anyway. It is kinda funny that Sean Fanning's name in the movie is Sean Parker. Or was that character supposed to be someone else and to protect the identity they claimed he made "napster" instead of whatever he really made? Certainly Timberlake looks nothing like Fanning. I think the movie is a bit kind to Zuckerberg, but then, it is pretty hard to make a movie focused on a single individual and not have it come out sympathetic. Unless that individual is, say, hitler or idi amin.
- lotusleaf1987 16y agoSean Parker and Shawn Fanning cofounded Napster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Parker http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Parker http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawn_Fanning http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawn_Fanning Sean Parker was President of Facebook.
- tmlee 16y agoYeah.. that struck to me too.. i thought Parker was his middle name or something?~
- chopsueyar 16y agoI hadn't heard of Parker until this movie. I thought it was all Fanning, too. I still think Justin Frankel is the real badass programmer/hacker of the generation.
- trickjarrett 16y agoLawrence Lessig's thoughts on the movie, posted as a separate story on HN, but I felt I should add it here as well: http://www.tnr.com/article/books-and-arts/78081/sorkin-zuckerberg-the-social-network?page=0,1 http://www.tnr.com/article/books-and-arts/78081/sorkin-zucke... I left the movie quite satisfied. It was such marvelous dialog paired with excellent directing. I love Fincher's style, though at times it felt like he was being held back, such as during the regatta segment, I felt like he couldn't go as crazy as he would like given the soundtrack. Sorkin is a master of dialogue, and though the story is wildly inaccurate, I suspended disbelief and enjoyed the ride.
- marknutter 16y agoTo be fair there'd be no way it could ever be 100% accurate - this is how it goes in real life too. Ask 100 participants in the Facebook history how it all went down you'll get 100 different versions of the story.
- linhir 16y agoThat's true, but I think it is a little worse than just accounting for multiple perspectives. The movies is based on "The Accidental Billionaires," whose author didn't interview most (any?) of the main participants other than Eduardo Saverin. When you combine that with Sorkin's loudly proclaimed internet ignorance, I think you can end up with a great movie, but not one that is particularly related to a careful analysis of the 100 different versions of the founding story of Facebook. In The Accidental Billionaires, "Mezrich allows that he invents dialogue, synthesizes details, and puts imagined thoughts into his characters’ heads." If you want a less sensational book, but one where the author interviewed many of the principals I'd suggest Kirkpatrick's The Facebook Effect
- chopsueyar 16y agoHow about the Karate Kid reference?
- marknutter 16y agoI want to try to avoid hyperbole here, but I think this may have instantly jumped into my top 5 list of favorite movies. Its pacing and acting is unbelievably tight, and it happens to be about one of my favorite topics ever. I have a feeling it's going to give a lot of fellow HNers a queasy feeling in their stomachs like I got; like you need to get back to your computer and start coding right away, and everything is passing you by, that you could catch fire if you just found the right combination, and you should have and maybe did think of it first.. Ugh.. it's what this is all about, HN, startups, etc.
- chops 16y agogoing to give a lot of fellow HNers a queasy feeling in their stomachs like I got; like you need to get back to your computer and start coding right away, and everything is passing you by, That is exactly how I felt watching it. It's inspiration to work harder.
- ynniv 16y agoAnd yet here I am reading HN.
- neilk 16y agoAlso, to not waste time pontificating about the future of mankind and to snort the cocaine from the underage girl's stomach.
- chopsueyar 16y agoHe only wiped it off her stomach...and the girls and coke were sent in as a setup.
- davidedicillo 16y agoI was definitely surprised by how good it was, I read the book last year (very good as well), but I was expecting the movie to be more cheesy. I would see it again with no problems when it will be on netflix.
- waxman 16y agoLots of subcultures have their own movies. I'm just glad that ours is so damn awesome! Also: I think the screenplay, the directing, and the score (Trent Reznor!) will be nominated for Oscars.
- chopsueyar 16y agoSubculture's movie? 500 million people.
- wyclif 16y agoI really don't think the grandparent meant that Facebook is a subculture. I think he meant that startups and founders are the subculture and that Facebook is a result of that culture.
- waxman 16y agoYeah, that is what I meant. At it's core the plot is about a pretty specific experience (the challenges of founding a tech startup as a young, inexperienced hacker), but the emotions and the drama are universal, which is why I think the movie will enjoy widespread success. At the end of the day, though, it's about founders and hackers and startups. And that's awesome.
- Timothee 16y agoI was actually wondering how well the movie will do because, while it's about a service used by 500 million people, it's not about the service itself but about the creation and early days of the company. So a facebook user might not necessarily be interested.
- naner 16y agoVery engaging and reflective of the current culture/generation. As a geek, I liked how they didn't do a lot of fake flashy computer stuff (looked like he was using KDE3 and it was butt ugly). Though netbooks weren't around yet in 2003. ;)
- frisco 16y agoHow accurate was the jargon? When they talked about hacking, or were coding on screen, was it realistic?
- il 16y agoIt actually was pretty realistic. When he was talking about writing a shell script to wget images from Harvard facebooks, I smiled to myself a little.
- chopsueyar 16y agoDo you consider that hacking?
- chopsueyar 16y agoTo clarify, I meant, in the context of the movie, where Zuckerberg is accused of hacking by the administration because he used wget. Downvote away!
- trustfundbaby 16y agoThat was when I got sold on the movie. You could see him fire up putty on his windows xp box and catch snippets of code as he ran perl & shell scripts to do exactly what he wanted.
- birken 16y agoThat part at the beginning was certainly realistic. The part where there were 6 guys interviewing for facebook by taking a shot a minute "cracking SSL" or whatever it was surrounded by 30 screaming people was not realistic.
- marknutter 16y agoThe part that really hit home for me was the whole Winkelvoss plot-line. I got sucked into web development because of a deep desire to create something that will take off and become a hit - it's the best place to be if you're a modern entrepreneur, and I wanted to be a part of it. It's become an addiction for me, one that I fund by doing contracting work on the side. I don't have the money to pay someone else to do it, and even if I did I'd still build it myself. I've met and been approached by countless Winkelvosses since I've started doing this, and I've always had the same question in my mind: if you want to create something for the web, why the hell don't you figure out how to create it yourself? I started out with ZERO development experience and figured out how to do it - pretty quickly too, in fact. I don't understand how you could stand not being able to act on your ideas yourself if you were truly excited about the prospect of building them out - especially when the barrier of entry to entrepreneurialism has never been lower in the history of business. That the twins believed they should be compensated for having supposedly given Mark the idea for Facebook cuts right at the heart of what bothers me. The Twins were busy training to be Olympic rowers, besides being gorgeous Harvard supermen and screwing God-only-knows-how-many gorgeous women in the process. Mark was busy coding Facebook. Every waking hour. Obsessively. It's true the Twins had great insight about Facebook's (or ConnectU's) potential. But so did I back in 2002. So did every internet generation college-aged computer geek who'd seen Friendster and MySpace and hotornot.com. The point, that I know has (rightfully) been beaten to death on HN, is that it's not about the idea. It's about the blood, sweat, and execution of the idea. If you're only coming up with ideas, you're not throwing your hat into the ring as far as I'm concerned. You're playing with monopoly money. By far the best line in the movie was "If you were the inventors of Facebook, you've had invented Facebook." It was a fist pumping moment for me.
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- natgordon 16y agoDo you think non-tech people saw that the same way as us? I felt the same thing about the Winklevoss' story-line. Did non-developers/non-HNers get the same thing from the movie?
- christonog 16y agoI enjoyed the mental thought process and geek speak of Zuckerberg when he tried to hack into harvard's network and hire the first intern. A lot of people in the theatre around me were visibly confused, while I was actually able to follow along and think to myself "hey, I know that term!." Pretty cool.
- jchonphoenix 16y agoI was highly disappointed with one thing: They only referenced emacs and not vim. Where's the love? ;)
- forkandwait 16y agoWhere's the ctrl-x-( <hacker magic> ctrl-x-) ctrl-x-e e e e ...? (edited)
- ashitvora 16y agoMy ratings: 5/5 When I read about this movie, I thought this is something to bring down the image of Mark Zuckerberg. After watching the movie, it seems, # of sign ups on facebook will sky rocket.
- limedaring 16y agoI went into it expecting to not like it. Actually, I didn't want to see it in the first place ("Psh, a movie about Facebook?") but got free tickets through StartupDigest and decided to go. Really happy I did — the movie is one of my favorites now. Writing was awesome, soundtrack was fantastic (by Trent Reznor, and $8 to buy: http://www.nullco.com/TSN/ http://www.nullco.com/TSN/), cinematography was enchanting (the tilt-shift part during the crew race was particularly great), and I thought that Jesse Eisenberg in particular did a great job creating both an arrogant but sympathetic character. Additionally, the movie is pretty inspiring, as other commentators mentioned. Kind of disappointed in myself for being such a 'hater' in the beginning before actually seeing the movie.
- chopsueyar 16y agoYeah, I really like the tilt-shift, and alot other interesting camera work during the crew race set to In the Hall of the Mountain King.
- otwixto 16y agogreat scene in the movie and definitely the most "fincher-esq" part of the movie. THe movie was scored fantastically as well.
- limedaring 16y agoListening to the soundtrack right now, in fact. Great working music.
- otwixto 16y agothe opening credit score where Mark is running through Harvard was beautifully crafted. totally set the tone for the 1st half of the movie. Great electronic composition with sparse organic elements.
- neilk 16y agoThe fact that it is so gratuitous is what makes it great. A lesser director would have allowed the studios to cut it, because it doesn't "move the story forward" or other such BS. Instead he gets to tell us what he thinks of the Winkelvosses and their tiny world, in a way I've never seen before.
- zackham 16y agoAnyone else notice they were writing PHP and said it was Perl? Great movie, though. Amazing to see a popular film come out and do a decent job of portraying a software guy.
- trustfundbaby 16y agoI think you're mistaken. The part he talks about Perl is when he's writing utility code to download the pictures he used to build his first hit website at Harvard. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
- jpwagner 16y agoI haven't seen it yet, but I'm hoping it's better than http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0168122/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0168122/
- melito 16y agoI thought the tech stuff was pretty realistic (although I refuse to believe Facebook was written inside of emacs). Also I felt the whole "I scored 1600 on my SATs" and shooting down his professor with some technobabble about memory management was a little much. I understand there needs to be elements to add dramatic effect, but I can't help but feel there's a whole generation of assholes out there taking notes and thinking that being arrogant all the time = being right all the time
- trustfundbaby 16y agoBest line of the movie for me "You're not an asshole ... but you're trying really hard to be" Awesome movie ... I have no doubt any hackernews faithful will love it.
- skinnymuch 16y agoExcept he kind of was an asshole.
- rms 16y agoMaybe Zuck did go to see the movie? http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=38848471&fbid=707881996643&id=217560 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=38848471&fbid=7078...
- waterlesscloud 16y agoI am amused that Zuckerberg's profile page lists The West Wing as one of the two TV shows he likes. Ender's Game is the only book, which isn't too surprising.
- chopsueyar 16y agoIf you enjoy "startup" type movies, might I also suggest these (documentaries, not comedy-drama): startup.com http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0256408/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0256408/ e-dreams http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0262021/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0262021/
- davidwparker 16y agoThe best part for me was when Mark was hacking early in the movie and mentioned Emacs... I looked over at my wife who laughed, as she's used to me saying similar things.