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So, in an effort to fight off/investigate a “far right” political organization (it doesn’t matter whether they are or aren’t), the police are using some scary t

So, in an effort to fight off/investigate a “far right” political organization (it doesn’t matter whether they are or aren’t), the police are using some scary tactics that one might expect from an extreme political party in power. Great work there. Way to be the change you want to see in the world.

xashor 8y ago
You mixed it up, the bavarian police isn't fighting off/investigating AfD. Zwiebelfreunde (Friends of Onion) forwarded donations (!) from Germany into the US based RiseUp. Latter hosts a website calling for protests against the far right AfD.
- onli 8y ago
  Right. If anything, bavaria is illegally overreaching here in an effort to protect the AfD. Given the political development of the governing party of bavaria (the CSU developed into a right wing party and is fighting for destabilizing the moderate government) this police action is probably a political friendship offering between the two.
  - gmueckl 8y ago
    The stance of the CSU has always been to be the right most party in Bavaria. The AfD is their enemy for fishing votes at the right end if the spectrum that the CSU regards as their own. Why do you think we had the crisis in the federal government on behalf of CSU politicians pushing a dangerously right wing agenda?
- 1337biz 8y ago
  So they were most likely funneling money through international channels to support ANTIFA activists? If they were doing the same for the other side - i.e. funneling right wing money to support NAZI activist it would be the same kind of stupid. If you don't want to get your servers to be raided just don't side-hustle as an extremist shaddow financier.
  - onli 8y ago
    No. That's not even the claim by the prosecution.
  - eucitizen1 8y ago
    Just so you know: In Germany, Antifa is an umbrella term for a lot of left wing projects which try to build social structures for (mostly) peaceful reform. People like me - being antifascist - have been active in the political landscape for more than forty years. Mobilizing against neonazis works and has been pretty damn necessary in Eastern Germany since the collapse of the GDR. Unfortunately in the US, activists have been labeled as terrorists even though their organizing works as intended [1] - without fatalities. [1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/03/12/alt-right-leader-richard-spencer-says-his-rallies-arent-fun-anymore/416579002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/03/12/alt-right-lea...
    - 1337biz 8y ago
      We all remember what peaceful Antifa reform looks like from the Hamburg G20 pictures.
mtgx 8y ago
Merkel has been decent in the past, but she shouldn't have won again. It was getting obvious in her last years before the last election that she's also become too corrupt/power has gone to her head.

xashor 8y ago

You mixed it up, the bavarian police isn't fighting off/investigating AfD. Zwiebelfreunde (Friends of Onion) forwarded donations (!) from Germany into the US based RiseUp. Latter hosts a website calling for protests against the far right AfD.

onli 8y ago
Right. If anything, bavaria is illegally overreaching here in an effort to protect the AfD. Given the political development of the governing party of bavaria (the CSU developed into a right wing party and is fighting for destabilizing the moderate government) this police action is probably a political friendship offering between the two.
- gmueckl 8y ago
  The stance of the CSU has always been to be the right most party in Bavaria. The AfD is their enemy for fishing votes at the right end if the spectrum that the CSU regards as their own. Why do you think we had the crisis in the federal government on behalf of CSU politicians pushing a dangerously right wing agenda?
1337biz 8y ago
So they were most likely funneling money through international channels to support ANTIFA activists? If they were doing the same for the other side - i.e. funneling right wing money to support NAZI activist it would be the same kind of stupid. If you don't want to get your servers to be raided just don't side-hustle as an extremist shaddow financier.
- onli 8y ago
  No. That's not even the claim by the prosecution.
- eucitizen1 8y ago
  Just so you know: In Germany, Antifa is an umbrella term for a lot of left wing projects which try to build social structures for (mostly) peaceful reform. People like me - being antifascist - have been active in the political landscape for more than forty years. Mobilizing against neonazis works and has been pretty damn necessary in Eastern Germany since the collapse of the GDR. Unfortunately in the US, activists have been labeled as terrorists even though their organizing works as intended [1] - without fatalities. [1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/03/12/alt-right-leader-richard-spencer-says-his-rallies-arent-fun-anymore/416579002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/03/12/alt-right-lea...
  - 1337biz 8y ago
    We all remember what peaceful Antifa reform looks like from the Hamburg G20 pictures.

mtgx 8y ago

Merkel has been decent in the past, but she shouldn't have won again. It was getting obvious in her last years before the last election that she's also become too corrupt/power has gone to her head.