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The police are trained to go in first and clear the situation. The problem isn't that you should be afraid to call the police for suicide concerns, it's what h

The police are trained to go in first and clear the situation. The problem isn't that you should be afraid to call the police for suicide concerns, it's what happens next. Our system has completely failed the the suicidal, mentally ill, etc. You have almost no legitimate options for help. I recently heard of a story of someone who was put in jail when they threatened their own life. It's not the police's fault though, they have no options to them.

bigiain 8y ago
> The problem isn't that you should be afraid to call the police for suicide concerns Right. The problem, for a disturbingly large section of the community, is that they are afraid to call the cops for _anything_.
bigiain 8y ago
> The police are trained to ... Yeah, so "police training". I'm perhaps a little less prepared to attribute purely positive outcomes from that. http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-06/victoria-police-officer-simon-mareangareu-punched-kyan-foster/9842344 http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-06/victoria-police-off... "A Victorian police officer has told a jury he punched a teenager in the face as hard as he could, in line with his training, after the boy hit him on the forearm." and: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/22/ipcc-concern-over-police-tasers-compliance https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/22/ipcc-concern-o... "Police officers have been accused of using Tasers to inflict pain to gain compliance, a report by the police watchdog says. Concerns are also raised about the use of Tasers on suspects already in custody, in the findings by the Independent Police Complaints Commission." "IPCC commissioner James Dipple-Johnstone said: "When used in this way it is purely a means of pain compliance. Yet in several of the cases we reviewed, where it was used for the purpose of gaining compliance, it had the opposite effect, stimulating further resistance.""
cmiles74 8y ago
It is clear in the article that the police were not accompanied by any medical personnel. The police were the only people sent to the scene. I would argue that you should not be calling the police unless you are literally in fear for your life. Bringing the police, guns drawn, into your home or where ever you may be is only going to increase the chances of a gun being fired. In my opinion, this article highlights the reality that the police do, in fact, approach everything from a robbery to a reported suicide to a loudly barking dog in exactly the same way: guns drawn.

bigiain 8y ago

> The problem isn't that you should be afraid to call the police for suicide concerns Right. The problem, for a disturbingly large section of the community, is that they are afraid to call the cops for _anything_.

bigiain 8y ago

> The police are trained to ... Yeah, so "police training". I'm perhaps a little less prepared to attribute purely positive outcomes from that. http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-06/victoria-police-officer-simon-mareangareu-punched-kyan-foster/9842344 http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-06/victoria-police-off... "A Victorian police officer has told a jury he punched a teenager in the face as hard as he could, in line with his training, after the boy hit him on the forearm." and: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/22/ipcc-concern-over-police-tasers-compliance https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/22/ipcc-concern-o... "Police officers have been accused of using Tasers to inflict pain to gain compliance, a report by the police watchdog says. Concerns are also raised about the use of Tasers on suspects already in custody, in the findings by the Independent Police Complaints Commission." "IPCC commissioner James Dipple-Johnstone said: "When used in this way it is purely a means of pain compliance. Yet in several of the cases we reviewed, where it was used for the purpose of gaining compliance, it had the opposite effect, stimulating further resistance.""

cmiles74 8y ago

It is clear in the article that the police were not accompanied by any medical personnel. The police were the only people sent to the scene. I would argue that you should not be calling the police unless you are literally in fear for your life. Bringing the police, guns drawn, into your home or where ever you may be is only going to increase the chances of a gun being fired. In my opinion, this article highlights the reality that the police do, in fact, approach everything from a robbery to a reported suicide to a loudly barking dog in exactly the same way: guns drawn.