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I'm curious what hour of her day the deck officer was on and how many hours of sleep she had the night previous. At some point, sleep deprivation can leave you

I'm curious what hour of her day the deck officer was on and how many hours of sleep she had the night previous. At some point, sleep deprivation can leave you essentially non-functional.

tcj_phx 8y ago
I've heard that female sailors are injected with Depo-Provera, to protect them from getting knocked up... Some women can tolerate this drug, while others are maimed [0]. Progesterone is now known to be a brain hormone. Medroxyprogesterone (brand name: Provera) is a good imposter-progesterone. It's useful for suppressing ovulation, but doesn't function like the endogenous hormone. [0] https://www.ourbodiesourselves.org/2016/08/i-wouldnt-recommend-it-to-anyone-depo-provera/ https://www.ourbodiesourselves.org/2016/08/i-wouldnt-recomme... edit: They must use all types, not just Provera, but certainly they emphasize the options that don't require a daily pill - the implant, IUD, Depo-Provera, etc. http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=100091 http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=100091
chx 8y ago
According to official report https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4165320/USS-Fitzgerald-and-USS-John-S-McCain-Collision.pdf https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4165320/USS-Fitzg... it played a part for sure: 8.4 Fatigue The command leadership allowed the schedule of events preceding the collision to fatigue the crew. The command leadership failed to assess the risks of fatigue and implement mitigation measures to ensure adequate crew rest.
- dTal 8y ago
  Here is a very scathing and informative commentary on the Navy's "risk assessment" and "mitigation" procedures: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15120369 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15120369
  - chx 8y ago
    There obviously is something very wrong with the entire system when this happens twice within a short timeframe.
danielvf 8y ago
Started her day on ship at or before 6:00am and had been working for nineteen and half hours at the time of the collision. That's one of many, many reasons the captain is going to be deep trouble.

I'm curious what hour of her day the deck officer was on and how many hours of sleep she had the night previous. At some point, sleep deprivation can leave you essentially non-functional.

tcj_phx 8y ago

I've heard that female sailors are injected with Depo-Provera, to protect them from getting knocked up... Some women can tolerate this drug, while others are maimed [0]. Progesterone is now known to be a brain hormone. Medroxyprogesterone (brand name: Provera) is a good imposter-progesterone. It's useful for suppressing ovulation, but doesn't function like the endogenous hormone. [0] https://www.ourbodiesourselves.org/2016/08/i-wouldnt-recommend-it-to-anyone-depo-provera/ https://www.ourbodiesourselves.org/2016/08/i-wouldnt-recomme... edit: They must use all types, not just Provera, but certainly they emphasize the options that don't require a daily pill - the implant, IUD, Depo-Provera, etc. http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=100091 http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=100091

chx 8y ago

According to official report https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4165320/USS-Fitzgerald-and-USS-John-S-McCain-Collision.pdf https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4165320/USS-Fitzg... it played a part for sure: 8.4 Fatigue The command leadership allowed the schedule of events preceding the collision to fatigue the crew. The command leadership failed to assess the risks of fatigue and implement mitigation measures to ensure adequate crew rest.

dTal 8y ago
Here is a very scathing and informative commentary on the Navy's "risk assessment" and "mitigation" procedures: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15120369 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15120369
- chx 8y ago
  There obviously is something very wrong with the entire system when this happens twice within a short timeframe.

danielvf 8y ago

Started her day on ship at or before 6:00am and had been working for nineteen and half hours at the time of the collision. That's one of many, many reasons the captain is going to be deep trouble.