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As I mentioned - you also get all the toxic baggage from the animal products, which kind of negates the other side - you exercise because you want to stay healt

As I mentioned - you also get all the toxic baggage from the animal products, which kind of negates the other side - you exercise because you want to stay healthy. Also - you may have heard that excessive amounts of protein ages you faster - most protein heavy foods are also pro oxidants and oxidative stress ages your cells. The expensive vegan foods - meat, eggs, dairy are processed plants. So what you are saying is - if you eat the plants directly, they will be more expensive compared to filtering them through an animal and then eating them. Does not make sense. For the heavy exercise - they are now ultra marathon runners, power lifters, etc that are vegan. Where do they get their protein? https://www.ranker.com/list/athletes-who-are-vegan/people-in-sports https://www.ranker.com/list/athletes-who-are-vegan/people-in...

StriverGuy 8y ago
Toxic baggage...I get the feeling you haven't spent much time reading into the actual science of omnivore diets.
- ajaxaddicted 8y ago
  Maybe I have not. Can you get back to me with some information debunking the following claims: Meat - loaded with trans fat, cholesterol, antibiotics. Milk - full with estrogen(it is from a mammal after all), Casomorphin, which makes it addictive, antibiotics, cholesterol and trans fat, just like meat. Eggs - full with cholesterol and choline, illegal to advertise them as healthy or safe in the US. Fish - full with heavy metals like Lead, Mercury, antibiotics.
  - vram22 8y ago
    >Eggs - full with cholesterol and choline, illegal to advertise them as healthy or safe in the US. Is this really true?
    - ajaxaddicted 8y ago
      Yes, it is: https://nutritionfacts.org/video/who-says-eggs-arent-healthy-or-safe/ https://nutritionfacts.org/video/who-says-eggs-arent-healthy...
      - vram22 8y ago
        Thanks, will look at that.
        TheKIngofBelAir 8y ago
        https://sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2018/05/07/-eggs-not-linked-to-cardiovascular-risk--despite-conflicting-adv.html https://sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2018/05/07/-eggs-not...
        vram22 8y ago
        The article says, at the end of it: >The research was supported with a grant from Australian Eggs; they had no role in the research design, conduct, analyses or writing of the manuscript. Not sure what to make of that ...
      - TheKIngofBelAir 8y ago
        No it's not, Michael Greger is known Vegan/Plant based quack full of selection/confirmation bias thus totally biased and unreliable
  - rocannon 8y ago
    > Eggs - full with cholesterol and choline, illegal to advertise them as healthy or safe in the US This pdf from the USDA says "Eggs are among the most nutritious foods on earth and can be part of a healthy diet". True, the pdf then goes on in great detail about the potential health hazards: https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/wcm/connect/5235aa20-fee1-4e5b-86f5-8d6e09f351b6/Shell_Eggs_from_Farm_to_Table.pdf?MOD=AJPERES https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/wcm/connect/5235aa20-fee1-4e5b... The American Egg Board pretty much states they are wonderful for your health: https://www.eggnutritioncenter.org/egg-nutrition-basics https://www.eggnutritioncenter.org/egg-nutrition-basics > Eggs fit into the healthy dietary patterns recommended by public health organizations. > The high-quality protein in an egg is essential for building and maintaining lean body mass Essential, hm.

StriverGuy 8y ago

Toxic baggage...I get the feeling you haven't spent much time reading into the actual science of omnivore diets.

ajaxaddicted 8y ago
Maybe I have not. Can you get back to me with some information debunking the following claims: Meat - loaded with trans fat, cholesterol, antibiotics. Milk - full with estrogen(it is from a mammal after all), Casomorphin, which makes it addictive, antibiotics, cholesterol and trans fat, just like meat. Eggs - full with cholesterol and choline, illegal to advertise them as healthy or safe in the US. Fish - full with heavy metals like Lead, Mercury, antibiotics.
- vram22 8y ago
  >Eggs - full with cholesterol and choline, illegal to advertise them as healthy or safe in the US. Is this really true?
  - ajaxaddicted 8y ago
    Yes, it is: https://nutritionfacts.org/video/who-says-eggs-arent-healthy-or-safe/ https://nutritionfacts.org/video/who-says-eggs-arent-healthy...
    - vram22 8y ago
      Thanks, will look at that.
      - TheKIngofBelAir 8y ago
        https://sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2018/05/07/-eggs-not-linked-to-cardiovascular-risk--despite-conflicting-adv.html https://sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2018/05/07/-eggs-not...
        vram22 8y ago
        The article says, at the end of it: >The research was supported with a grant from Australian Eggs; they had no role in the research design, conduct, analyses or writing of the manuscript. Not sure what to make of that ...
    - TheKIngofBelAir 8y ago
      No it's not, Michael Greger is known Vegan/Plant based quack full of selection/confirmation bias thus totally biased and unreliable
- rocannon 8y ago
  > Eggs - full with cholesterol and choline, illegal to advertise them as healthy or safe in the US This pdf from the USDA says "Eggs are among the most nutritious foods on earth and can be part of a healthy diet". True, the pdf then goes on in great detail about the potential health hazards: https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/wcm/connect/5235aa20-fee1-4e5b-86f5-8d6e09f351b6/Shell_Eggs_from_Farm_to_Table.pdf?MOD=AJPERES https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/wcm/connect/5235aa20-fee1-4e5b... The American Egg Board pretty much states they are wonderful for your health: https://www.eggnutritioncenter.org/egg-nutrition-basics https://www.eggnutritioncenter.org/egg-nutrition-basics > Eggs fit into the healthy dietary patterns recommended by public health organizations. > The high-quality protein in an egg is essential for building and maintaining lean body mass Essential, hm.