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Why would it need to be compliant? Ycombinator is not a European company.
by ARothfusz 8y ago
Why would it need to be compliant? Ycombinator is not a European company.
- wichert 8y agoBecause it has people from Europe accessing the site.
- ARothfusz 8y agoDo you feel that Europeans have been "targeted"? https://gdpr-info.eu/recitals/no-23/ https://gdpr-info.eu/recitals/no-23/
- mynameisvlad 8y agoOkay, so now let's say your website is found non-compliant. You're a tiny operation in the US with absolutely no presence in the EU. The EU has absolutely no way to exert power over you.
- nodesocket 8y agoUnfortunately GPDR effects any site/company that has EU visitors which is nearly all sites.
- trothamel 8y agoThe EU government would certainly like that to be the case, but it's not clear why it would be. If the US passed a law that required citizens of other countries to pay a $20/year tax (say, a GPS license fee), would that be enforceable?
- maym86 8y agoFortunately GPDR effects any site/company that has EU visitors which is nearly all sites.
- strictnein 8y agoNo, it simply doesn't. If you've been told this you've been informed incorrectly.
- stanmancan 8y agoWhat happens if a non-european comoany doesnt comply?
- 013a 8y agoI was under the impression that it only affects businesses which do business in the EU, meaning they have an officially registered company within the EU. If my random little website isn't GDPR compliant, what is their strategy for getting me to pay the restitution if I'm not doing business in the EU? Where do the fines go? How could they force me to pay them? The worst they can do is block access to the website, but I haven't read anything which suggests that is written in the law.
- cyberferret 8y agoBut if they hold and manage data for users who reside in the EU (which they do), then I believe the rules apply too. From what I can gather, if a user in the EU approaches HN and asks for their profile data and posts to be removed, then that falls under the GDPR laws.
- ars 8y agoIf that it truly the case, then I suspect we will see more and more sites refuse service to Europeans. Are Europeans permitted to decline to be covered under the GDPR? (In exchange for being permitted to use such sites?)
- jclay 8y agoI was wondering the same. I wonder where this falls if the EU resident is using a VPN. It'd likely still be on the site owner to prove that were the case.
- strictnein 8y agoNo, laws don't work that way. American first amendment rights, for instance, don't extend to websites based in Europe. You don't get to bring your laws and rights with you when you visit a website that's hosted and run in a foreign country. edit: clarified European based websites
- joshuamorton 8y agoThis depends. Those laws could absolutely be enforced if, for example, Paul Graham tried to travel to Germany. You may not agree with the ethics of that, but that's how it works in practice. Now whether or not the EU will attempt to enforce the GDPR that strongly is another question.
- dnomad 8y agoThis is pure nonsense. You might learn that the GDPR only applies to businesses located in the EU or who pursue EU citizens. It does not mean that if you Google Analytics and an EU citizen stumbles upon your site you are suddenly in violation. It is not some sort of magical global law that applies to every business in the world. The amount of FUD and ignorance and nonsense about the GDPR is getting out of control. Why not do some research? Or actually read the regulation? Anyways I see it's a lost cause but I find it remarkable how much BS about this topic exists from a community that prides itself on its technology acumen.