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While the criticism directed at social media is certainly warranted. I feel compelled to take exception with your reliance on false equivalence. It's kinda qual
by VVyattPrentice 9y ago
While the criticism directed at social media is certainly warranted. I feel compelled to take exception with your reliance on false equivalence. It's kinda qualitatively different when you're actively engaging in illegal activity while working hand in glove with a clandestine foreign intelligence service to undermine your own countries democratic elections on behalf of an adversarial foreign nation state. If you can't see the difference, then keep at it. I assure you it's there. But if you already know that then you go ahead and keep explaining to folks how apples and oranges are the same things because they're both round fruit.
- paulddraper 9y ago> undermine your own countries democratic elections on behalf of an adversarial foreign nation state Citation needed.
- throwaway5752 9y agoNot really, it's common knowledge. There are a pile of dead Russians ex-IC people all over Europe, the existing Mueller indictments, the Crowdstrike DNC Russian APT attributions, all of our own lying eyes...
- greecejunkie 9y agoFunny, I must have missed the Mueller indictments relating to collusion or coordination of any kind (it's coming any day now, though, right?). I've seen a number of process charges. I've seen a handful of Russians charged with, essentially, social media ads and trolling and setting up a Michael Moore rally in NYC. And, of course, Manafort, who is dirty AF (right up there with the Podestas, the Clintons and the rest), but nothing relating to the Trump campaign. And if dead men do tell tales, as you seem to imply, I would think Seth Rich would have quite a story indeed.
- dominostars 9y ago> And, of course, Manafort, who is dirty AF (right up there with the Podestas, the Clintons and the rest), but nothing relating to the Trump campaign. Manafort served as Trump's Campaign manager from June 2016 to August 2016, but I guess that has nothing to do with Trump's Campaign. Created an account to attempt to derail this conversation into being about Seth Rich and Hillary Clinton. lol.
- nopriorarrests 9y agoBut your opponent is correct. Manafort indictment is about laundering money he made in Ukraine before 2014. It really has nothing to do with him being a campaign manager in 2016. Moreover, I bet this activities as a campaign manager were examined under microscope, and nothing shady was found, otherwise he would be indicted. Lets stay rational and stick to facts.
- croon 8y ago> Lets stay rational and stick to facts. Sure, let's do that: 1) George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. 2) Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. 3) Paul Manafort was indicted on conspiracy, money laundering, false statements, and failure to disclose foreign assets, not just money laundering. 4) Rick Gates similar to Manafort, but has taken a plea deal. 5) 13 Russian nationals and 3 Russian companies indicted on conspiracy charges and identity theft. 6) Richard Pinedo pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and is cooperating. 7) Alex van der Zwaan pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his connections to Rick Gates.
- throwaway5752 8y agoAnd let's remember they are not 13 random Russians, either.
- paulddraper 8y agoPerjury != collusion or treason.
- VVyattPrentice 8y agohttps://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download