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What about the EU preventing countries from doing such things? There's a lot of countries with governments which really like filters. I'm against _any_ governme

What about the EU preventing countries from doing such things? There's a lot of countries with governments which really like filters. I'm against _any_ government or organization which proposes such filters, but I do not have much hope killing the EU would help to stop such proposals. I rather hope the EU parliament will help to prevent such filters like they did with software patents. And per-country rules don't really make much sense anyway for the internet. Global rules would make it easier for developers - unless they are completely stupid like this proposal obviously.

staticelf 9y ago
It's easier to avoid one country or move either yourself or your business from a country (or even threaten to move) than from a large union. For example, let's say the EU would vote to make the internet illegal inside EU. I could move to Norway but otherwise my nearest alternative would be either the US or Russia. Neither of which is an easy move or even thinkable. I agree that it would be awesome if they only passed sensible legislation, but unfortunately the risk of them passing stuff like this is too great for them to have this power to begin with. The EU have done so much good stuff, but also so much stupid stuff and if this gets passed I'm probably going to vote against staying in the EU if given the choice. The scariest part about EU is how no one understand how the process of creating legislation is. It is very hard to keep track on stuff as a normal citizen and you are completely reliant on information from third parties like in this case Github. Also when stuff like this happens, I have no idea who to write to unless someone tells me who to write to and I don't have a directly huge belief that they would care about what I have to write about it anyway. The power to make grass root changes within the EU is super small compared to making it within your own country. If Github wouldn't have posted this I would never have known and that scares me a lot.
- coffeeaddicted 9y ago
  I won't deny that if this one really passes (not yet believing it), then it will be a pretty hard blow to my somewhat pro-EU stance. And yeah, I guess law-makers in the EU are even further disconnected from most people than national politicians. Thought the web makes that gap smaller again.

staticelf 9y ago

It's easier to avoid one country or move either yourself or your business from a country (or even threaten to move) than from a large union. For example, let's say the EU would vote to make the internet illegal inside EU. I could move to Norway but otherwise my nearest alternative would be either the US or Russia. Neither of which is an easy move or even thinkable. I agree that it would be awesome if they only passed sensible legislation, but unfortunately the risk of them passing stuff like this is too great for them to have this power to begin with. The EU have done so much good stuff, but also so much stupid stuff and if this gets passed I'm probably going to vote against staying in the EU if given the choice. The scariest part about EU is how no one understand how the process of creating legislation is. It is very hard to keep track on stuff as a normal citizen and you are completely reliant on information from third parties like in this case Github. Also when stuff like this happens, I have no idea who to write to unless someone tells me who to write to and I don't have a directly huge belief that they would care about what I have to write about it anyway. The power to make grass root changes within the EU is super small compared to making it within your own country. If Github wouldn't have posted this I would never have known and that scares me a lot.

coffeeaddicted 9y ago
I won't deny that if this one really passes (not yet believing it), then it will be a pretty hard blow to my somewhat pro-EU stance. And yeah, I guess law-makers in the EU are even further disconnected from most people than national politicians. Thought the web makes that gap smaller again.