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Will Trump support the execution of this man and other legal drug dealers like him as well?
by efini 9y ago
Will Trump support the execution of this man and other legal drug dealers like him as well?
- astura 9y agoThis is getting down voted but I don't think that's fair, it's not off topic. Trump said yesterday he's in favor of the death penalty for drug dealers because they are responsible for the death of others. It's a fair question to ask if there should be a distinction between street dealers and these doctors and executives.
- onetimemanytime 9y agoTrump is the President, not a King. This doc has been convicted and was sentenced based on the laws in place when he commuted the crimes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_post_facto_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_post_facto_law and all. Also Trump cannot force the US Congress and Senate to pass the laws. Or the courts to judge that this is compatible with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruel_and_unusual_punishment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruel_and_unusual_punishment
- mikeash 9y agoThe question is whether he would support it, not whether he would enact it by decree.
- enraged_camel 9y agoYes, exactly. And I think we already know that the answer is no, he wouldn't support it. Trump has a very childish perception of the world, and a doctor undoubtedly does not fit his mental image of the drug dealer stereotype.
- UrukParthian 9y agoIt's almost like politicians manage their perception and image in strategic ways where they lull their enemies into being emotionally caught up with minor character flaws rather than the tactics and orientation of their actions. The smugness of people against Trump is even more worse than the smugness people had against George W. They're not idiots. They're sharks who have a very clear aptitude at manipulating people and public perception. It's very bad strategy, and very human, to ascribe to your opponents victories as "luck" and to ascribe their mentality as "dumb".
- mikeash 9y agoI agree with you when it comes to most politicians, but I’m pretty sure Trump is actually dumb. He’s the only person I’ve ever seen contradict himself three times in a single sentence. When he speaks, he almost never displays any indication that there’s any understanding of the subject at hand. W had a superficial dumbness that was largely cultivated. Beneath that he had at least a basic understanding of the issues.
- UrukParthian 9y agoDo you think he cares about you the coherence of his statements when they provoke a strong emotional reaction from a dumb population addicted to emotionally reacting and addicted to signaling alliegence to some vague social grouping? You're taking his bait superbly by thinking that the truth wins you the game of democracy. To call him "dumb" is to severely underestimate the strategies potential president have used in their rise to power. Or in other words, did calling him an idiot get your side any concessions, any retaken ground? Instead of taking Trump's bait, I'd highly recommend reading Robert Caro's books on Lyndon B. Johnson. You'll never look at politics the same way again.
- mikeash 9y agoAre you under the impression that I’m calling him “dumb” as some sort of political strategy? I’m just describing the facts as I see them. Pointing out that it works for him is not any sort of argument against what I’m saying. Of course his dumbness has appeal. That’s why he won. That doesn’t mean he’s not an idiot.
- alkonaut 9y ago> Trump is the President, not a King Who will tell him though?
- _emacsomancer_ 9y ago> Trump is the President, not a King. He'd make a bloody awful King, by any measure. It's bad enough that he's a President.
- astura 9y agoWhether or not he supports something is completely irrelevant to if he can force something to happen or if it's Constitutional. Trump has supported unconstitutional positions in the past, it's not out of character.
- sitkack 9y agoIf I were Trump, I would make a penal colony on one of our pacific atolls and then drone strike him, that would align with existing executive power. Didn't we declare a "War on Drugs", so that would make drug dealers enemy combatants and subject to tribunals and gitmo. I should have been Alito.
- skookumchuck 9y ago> they are responsible for the death of others Are they? Those others knowingly and voluntarily took those drugs.
- toomuchtodo 9y agoAddiction is not voluntary.
- stordoff 9y agoAddiction is not voluntary, but addiction is a known, likely side-effect of many drugs. That first step is, to a large extent, voluntary (in most cases).
- scurvy 9y agoAddiction is a possible effect of willingly taking drugs (as the person before you was stating). I'm not saying that people don't have demons and everyone has their own way of coping, but you need to take drugs to be addicted. That first step is taken willfully.
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- ajmurmann 9y agoFunny enough, if I buy heroin on a street corner, the addiction is voluntary. If I get prescribed opioids and the doctor who I trust ensures me it's the right thing on my situation, I wouldn't call all cases "voluntary addiction". Edit: I can buy a damn gun when I'm 18, but have to be 21 to drink beer and will never be allowed to buy LSD which is pretty safe and not addictive. WTF?! I blame religion and Puritan nut jobs.
- skookumchuck 9y agoMany addicts have overcome their addiction. As far as I know, none of them succeeded by blaming others. They succeeded by taking responsibility.
- village-idiot 9y agoSince the doctors can bribe him, we know what the answer is.
- 6t6t6t6 9y agoTrump would be able to become friends with the president of Philippines Rodrigo Duterte!
- ggg9990 9y agoI don’t know about Trump, but I’d be perfectly fine sending him to his execution if I was on his jury.