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That's not entirely true. Candidates have to meet employers halfway. Employer's have a limited amount of time and money too, why should they waste those resour

That's not entirely true. Candidates have to meet employers halfway. Employer's have a limited amount of time and money too, why should they waste those resources having to mine for someone's skill level when there's plenty of candidates out there that will display that on some online site.

toomuchtodo 9y ago
> Candidates have to meet employers halfway. Perhaps in a recession, but in the current market, the employer must meet the candidate. That's how supply and demand works. To confirm (as an example), check out the last HN Who's Hiring [1], and compare to the next one. I assure you, most of the positions go unfilled because demand is exceeding supply. A company can either make their filters more reasonable, pay more, or a combination of the two. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16282819 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16282819
- always_good 9y ago
  There may be more jobs available than developers, but all of those jobs aren't equal. For the good jobs, you're competing against other good people. Good luck playing coy. There were also more women than men in my university, but that didn't free up the cutest girl in the bar.
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  - toomuchtodo 9y ago
    > For the good jobs, you're competing against other good people. Good luck playing coy. Everyone does not need the best job. They all just need good enough jobs that continually must improve because demand outstrips supply. See Basecamp for an example; I'm confident developers reading that post began to think about their compensation after reading that. "Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in San Francisco, but now we pay everyone as though all did" https://m.signalvnoise.com/basecamp-doesnt-employ-anyone-in-san-francisco-but-now-we-pay-everyone-as-though-all-did-3ee87013cfc2 https://m.signalvnoise.com/basecamp-doesnt-employ-anyone-in-...
- souprock 9y ago
  Sometimes an employer has more than one slot to fill, or the business is growing and gets another slot to fill. I may post the same thing next month, but that doesn't mean we haven't hired. There is an ongoing need.
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toomuchtodo 9y ago

> Candidates have to meet employers halfway. Perhaps in a recession, but in the current market, the employer must meet the candidate. That's how supply and demand works. To confirm (as an example), check out the last HN Who's Hiring [1], and compare to the next one. I assure you, most of the positions go unfilled because demand is exceeding supply. A company can either make their filters more reasonable, pay more, or a combination of the two. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16282819 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16282819

always_good 9y ago
There may be more jobs available than developers, but all of those jobs aren't equal. For the good jobs, you're competing against other good people. Good luck playing coy. There were also more women than men in my university, but that didn't free up the cutest girl in the bar.
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- toomuchtodo 9y ago
  > For the good jobs, you're competing against other good people. Good luck playing coy. Everyone does not need the best job. They all just need good enough jobs that continually must improve because demand outstrips supply. See Basecamp for an example; I'm confident developers reading that post began to think about their compensation after reading that. "Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in San Francisco, but now we pay everyone as though all did" https://m.signalvnoise.com/basecamp-doesnt-employ-anyone-in-san-francisco-but-now-we-pay-everyone-as-though-all-did-3ee87013cfc2 https://m.signalvnoise.com/basecamp-doesnt-employ-anyone-in-...
souprock 9y ago
Sometimes an employer has more than one slot to fill, or the business is growing and gets another slot to fill. I may post the same thing next month, but that doesn't mean we haven't hired. There is an ongoing need.
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