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Auto updates of apps is the way to go if you have to build a native app. I expect more apps to move to that direction. At the moment the biggest problem I see

by sx 16y ago

Auto updates of apps is the way to go if you have to build a native app. I expect more apps to move to that direction. At the moment the biggest problem I see is that there is not a framework for doing this, it has to be build from the scratch every time

commandar 16y ago
http://sparkle.andymatuschak.org/ http://sparkle.andymatuschak.org/ I'm not aware if there's anything similar for Windows.
- sx 16y ago
  This looks good but does it support background updating like Chrome? I am not aware of a win or a Linux (I mostly work on Linux) solution either
  - Niten 16y ago
    > I am not aware of a win or a Linux (I mostly work on Linux) solution either. I'm trying to say this without sounding snarky, but why the heck would you need this on an operating system that already gives you apt-get, pacman, yum, portmaster, or what have you? As for Windows, apparently there's a WinSparkle now: http://winsparkle.org/ http://winsparkle.org/ Also the WiX people have been working on something along these lines, but I don't know how mature that project is or if it's even still a project any more. EDIT: Looks like Google's made a separate open-source project of its update framework, Omaha, which is apparently how Chrome gets its updates. So I guess you can get Chrome-style auto updates in your own applications now. Don't know if Google's nifty binary diff compression algorithm is included. http://code.google.com/p/omaha/ http://code.google.com/p/omaha/
    - sx 16y ago
      When I mentioned framework, I meant something more than apt-get that just fetches and installs the packages. Something that would allow me to build background updates in my app like Chrome. EDIT: I guess G Omaha is what I am looking for but ... "Support of platforms other than Windows 2000 (SP4+), Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7; in other words, we will not support OS X, Linux ..." from http://omaha.googlecode.com/svn/wiki/OmahaOverview.html http://omaha.googlecode.com/svn/wiki/OmahaOverview.html
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- mavrommatis 16y ago
  Nice. This page http://stackoverflow.com/questions/252986/is-there-an-auto-update-framework-for-c-win32-mfc-like-sparkle http://stackoverflow.com/questions/252986/is-there-an-auto-u... lists a few alternatives, including WinSparkle http://winsparkle.org/ http://winsparkle.org/ I like that Sparkle's open source, and it's being used by many open source apps on Mac already. Getting the auto-update software to actually be secure is not trivial either (a recent attack was discovered on Acrobat's updater for example).
wyday 16y ago
Our company makes wyBuild: http://wyday.com/wybuild/ http://wyday.com/wybuild/ . It comes in 3 parts (wyBuild, wyUpdate, and the AutomaticUpdater control). wyBuild makes the tiny update patches, wyUpdate is the open source updater (BSD licensed) and the AutomaticUpdater control is the open source control that adds the ability for fully automatic updates (LGPL Licensed). Here are the links to the source code, for those interested: wyUpdate: http://wyday.com/wyupdate/ http://wyday.com/wyupdate/ AutomaticUpdater: http://code.google.com/p/automatic-updater/ http://code.google.com/p/automatic-updater/ (instructions: http://wyday.com/wybuild/help/automatic-updates/ http://wyday.com/wybuild/help/automatic-updates/ )
- andrewl-hn 16y ago
  Just a quick note: your update icon looks a lot like Mozilla Sync: http://mozillalabs.com/sync/ http://mozillalabs.com/sync/ It might be that you came up with this icon independently but anyway it's better to change it. Terrific product otherwise. I'll try to convince people at our company to tale a look at it. We currently have our own AutoUpdate implementation but it downloads the whole .msi files.
  - sp332 16y ago
    > it's better to change it. Or just give attribution and copy the license. Mozilla licenses their assets CC BY-SA http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/ http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/

by sx 16y ago

commandar 16y ago

http://sparkle.andymatuschak.org/ http://sparkle.andymatuschak.org/ I'm not aware if there's anything similar for Windows.

sx 16y ago
This looks good but does it support background updating like Chrome? I am not aware of a win or a Linux (I mostly work on Linux) solution either
- Niten 16y ago
  > I am not aware of a win or a Linux (I mostly work on Linux) solution either. I'm trying to say this without sounding snarky, but why the heck would you need this on an operating system that already gives you apt-get, pacman, yum, portmaster, or what have you? As for Windows, apparently there's a WinSparkle now: http://winsparkle.org/ http://winsparkle.org/ Also the WiX people have been working on something along these lines, but I don't know how mature that project is or if it's even still a project any more. EDIT: Looks like Google's made a separate open-source project of its update framework, Omaha, which is apparently how Chrome gets its updates. So I guess you can get Chrome-style auto updates in your own applications now. Don't know if Google's nifty binary diff compression algorithm is included. http://code.google.com/p/omaha/ http://code.google.com/p/omaha/
  - sx 16y ago
    When I mentioned framework, I meant something more than apt-get that just fetches and installs the packages. Something that would allow me to build background updates in my app like Chrome. EDIT: I guess G Omaha is what I am looking for but ... "Support of platforms other than Windows 2000 (SP4+), Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7; in other words, we will not support OS X, Linux ..." from http://omaha.googlecode.com/svn/wiki/OmahaOverview.html http://omaha.googlecode.com/svn/wiki/OmahaOverview.html
- deleted 16y ago
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mavrommatis 16y ago
Nice. This page http://stackoverflow.com/questions/252986/is-there-an-auto-update-framework-for-c-win32-mfc-like-sparkle http://stackoverflow.com/questions/252986/is-there-an-auto-u... lists a few alternatives, including WinSparkle http://winsparkle.org/ http://winsparkle.org/ I like that Sparkle's open source, and it's being used by many open source apps on Mac already. Getting the auto-update software to actually be secure is not trivial either (a recent attack was discovered on Acrobat's updater for example).

wyday 16y ago

Our company makes wyBuild: http://wyday.com/wybuild/ http://wyday.com/wybuild/ . It comes in 3 parts (wyBuild, wyUpdate, and the AutomaticUpdater control). wyBuild makes the tiny update patches, wyUpdate is the open source updater (BSD licensed) and the AutomaticUpdater control is the open source control that adds the ability for fully automatic updates (LGPL Licensed). Here are the links to the source code, for those interested: wyUpdate: http://wyday.com/wyupdate/ http://wyday.com/wyupdate/ AutomaticUpdater: http://code.google.com/p/automatic-updater/ http://code.google.com/p/automatic-updater/ (instructions: http://wyday.com/wybuild/help/automatic-updates/ http://wyday.com/wybuild/help/automatic-updates/ )

andrewl-hn 16y ago
Just a quick note: your update icon looks a lot like Mozilla Sync: http://mozillalabs.com/sync/ http://mozillalabs.com/sync/ It might be that you came up with this icon independently but anyway it's better to change it. Terrific product otherwise. I'll try to convince people at our company to tale a look at it. We currently have our own AutoUpdate implementation but it downloads the whole .msi files.
- sp332 16y ago
  > it's better to change it. Or just give attribution and copy the license. Mozilla licenses their assets CC BY-SA http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/ http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/