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The FB feed has been terrible since it changed from a chronological list. Doubt this will improve anything.

JumpCrisscross 9y ago
> The FB feed has been terrible since it changed from a chronological list Isn’t there still an option to rank chronologically? It just isn’t the default. In any case, the news feed has been a quantitative success in terms of engagement metrics.
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- scarmig 9y ago
  I don't think it's stictly honest about showing all posts chronologically--it still hides many that it decides aren't worth your time, time that can be better spent viewing ads. Even then, the choice to view it chronologically expires every 2 days or so, and you're back to the default.
- jrs235 9y ago
  I recall there was a most recent option and a top stories option. It seems the feed often got reset to top stories so you had to pay attention.
40acres 9y ago
Same with Instagram, it's a major reason why I no longer use the service.
Florin_Andrei 9y ago
It will "maximize eyeballs", which is the desired result for them.
- jrs235 9y ago
  I thought the goal was to maximize the dopamine releasing Likes. Edit: to hook people on FB to increase eye ball time (which translates to more ad exposure as well as improving individual profiling and ad targeting)
gumby 9y ago
Unless you have a small number of FB contacts (AKA “friends”) chrono is probably rapidly overwhelmed. I wanted chrono too, but it’s just too much. OTOH it’s absurd that if you want to see again that post you saw last week — or this morning! — you probably can’t find it. That can be true in the HN firehouse too though sometimes you can dredge it out of your browser history. Good luck trying that w/FB My gf works on this at FB (don’t know if she works on this particular change) and she says her group talks every day about the difficulty of finding stuff. I don’t know if those discussions are part of her work or it’s just they have the same problems. I just know that when I gripe about any UX issues or the shittiness of their app she just sighs and says, “yeah, we know”
- cryptoz 9y ago
  > OTOH it’s absurd that if you want to see again that post you saw last week — or this morning! — you probably can’t find it. Try 2 seconds ago. Open facebook, browse, start to close facebook, see something interesting, but it's too late the tab is closing, oh well, re-open facebook, too bad it's gone forever you'll never see it again.
  - lemoncucumber 9y ago
    Worse yet, if you use the Facebook app to follow a link someone posted and leave it open for awhile, when you then hit the back button to close the browser and return to your feed, the post containing the link will no longer be on your screen, or even easy to find. Makes it near impossible to comment on it, re-share it, etc.
- chrischen 9y ago
  Your list of friends that you should be keeping up with should be small.
- mikestew 9y ago
  OTOH it’s absurd that if you want to see again that post you saw last week — or this morning! — you probably can’t find it Forgive my ignorance, don’t have a FB account, but there’s no “search the feed” functionality? That crazy, WTH is the point if something blips by and I have no way to find it again? Something something monetization, but it seems like that would be a major oversight. But silly me, I’m probably making the mistake of looking at it from the user’s perspective.
minimaxir 9y ago
If you have Pages which you really like, you can emphasize them with See First as the press release notes: > Can people still see posts from the Pages they follow at the top of News Feed? > Yes. People who want to see more posts from Pages they follow can choose See First in News Feed Preferences to make sure they always see posts from their favorite Pages
nofunsir 9y ago
First it was an option to still use the chronological list. Then the option was only temporary. Then they buried the option under Feeds > Most Recent. Sometimes it's even hidden and you have to hit "See More..." and scroll down. Even then it's only temporary until you re-open the app. A dark pattern for sure.

> The FB feed has been terrible since it changed from a chronological list Isn’t there still an option to rank chronologically? It just isn’t the default. In any case, the news feed has been a quantitative success in terms of engagement metrics.

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scarmig 9y ago
I don't think it's stictly honest about showing all posts chronologically--it still hides many that it decides aren't worth your time, time that can be better spent viewing ads. Even then, the choice to view it chronologically expires every 2 days or so, and you're back to the default.
jrs235 9y ago
I recall there was a most recent option and a top stories option. It seems the feed often got reset to top stories so you had to pay attention.

40acres 9y ago

Same with Instagram, it's a major reason why I no longer use the service.

Florin_Andrei 9y ago

It will "maximize eyeballs", which is the desired result for them.

jrs235 9y ago
I thought the goal was to maximize the dopamine releasing Likes. Edit: to hook people on FB to increase eye ball time (which translates to more ad exposure as well as improving individual profiling and ad targeting)

gumby 9y ago

Unless you have a small number of FB contacts (AKA “friends”) chrono is probably rapidly overwhelmed. I wanted chrono too, but it’s just too much. OTOH it’s absurd that if you want to see again that post you saw last week — or this morning! — you probably can’t find it. That can be true in the HN firehouse too though sometimes you can dredge it out of your browser history. Good luck trying that w/FB My gf works on this at FB (don’t know if she works on this particular change) and she says her group talks every day about the difficulty of finding stuff. I don’t know if those discussions are part of her work or it’s just they have the same problems. I just know that when I gripe about any UX issues or the shittiness of their app she just sighs and says, “yeah, we know”

cryptoz 9y ago
> OTOH it’s absurd that if you want to see again that post you saw last week — or this morning! — you probably can’t find it. Try 2 seconds ago. Open facebook, browse, start to close facebook, see something interesting, but it's too late the tab is closing, oh well, re-open facebook, too bad it's gone forever you'll never see it again.
- lemoncucumber 9y ago
  Worse yet, if you use the Facebook app to follow a link someone posted and leave it open for awhile, when you then hit the back button to close the browser and return to your feed, the post containing the link will no longer be on your screen, or even easy to find. Makes it near impossible to comment on it, re-share it, etc.
chrischen 9y ago
Your list of friends that you should be keeping up with should be small.
mikestew 9y ago
OTOH it’s absurd that if you want to see again that post you saw last week — or this morning! — you probably can’t find it Forgive my ignorance, don’t have a FB account, but there’s no “search the feed” functionality? That crazy, WTH is the point if something blips by and I have no way to find it again? Something something monetization, but it seems like that would be a major oversight. But silly me, I’m probably making the mistake of looking at it from the user’s perspective.

minimaxir 9y ago

If you have Pages which you really like, you can emphasize them with See First as the press release notes: > Can people still see posts from the Pages they follow at the top of News Feed? > Yes. People who want to see more posts from Pages they follow can choose See First in News Feed Preferences to make sure they always see posts from their favorite Pages

nofunsir 9y ago

First it was an option to still use the chronological list. Then the option was only temporary. Then they buried the option under Feeds > Most Recent. Sometimes it's even hidden and you have to hit "See More..." and scroll down. Even then it's only temporary until you re-open the app. A dark pattern for sure.