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For reference, I received this email before today: By now, we're sure most everyone have heard of the Meltdown and Spectre attacks. If not, head over to https:
by shirian 9y ago
For reference, I received this email before today:
By now, we're sure most everyone have heard of the Meltdown and Spectre
attacks. If not, head over to https://meltdownattack.com/ https://meltdownattack.com/ and get an
overview. Additional technical details are available from Google
Project Zero.
https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2018/01/reading-privileged-memory-with-side.html https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2018/01/reading-privi...
The FreeBSD Security Team was notified of the issue in late December
and received a briefing under NDA with the original embargo date of
January 9th. Since we received relatively late notice of the issue, our
ability to provide fixes is delayed.
Meltdown (CVE-2017-5754)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
In terms of priority, the first step is to mitigate against the Meltdown
attack (CVE-2017-5754, cited as variant 3 by Project Zero). Work for
this is ongoing, but due to the relatively large changes needed, this is
going to take a little while. We are currently targeting patches for
amd64 being dev complete this week with testing probably running into
next week. From there, we hope to give it a short bake time before
pushing it into the 11.1-RELEASE branch. Additional work will be
required to bring the mitigation to 10.3-RELEASE and 10.4-RELEASE.
The code will be selectable via a tunable which will automatically turn
on for modern Intel processors and off for AMD processors (since they
are reportedly not vulnerable). Since the fix for Meltdown does incur a
performance hit for any transition between user space and kernel space,
this could be rather impactful depending on the workload. As such, the
tunable can also be overridden by the end-user if they are willing to
accept the risk.
Initial work can be tracked at https://reviews.freebsd.org/D13797 https://reviews.freebsd.org/D13797.
Please note this is a work in progress and some stuff is likely to be
broken.
Spectre (CVE-2017-5753 and CVE-2017-5715)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
When it comes to the Spectre vulnerabilities, it is much harder to sort
these out. Variant 1 (CVE-2017-5753) is going to require some static
analysis to determine vulnerable use cases that will require barriers to
stop speculation from disclosing information it shouldn't. While we
haven't done the analysis to determine where we are vulnerable, the
number of cases here are supposed to be pretty small. Apparently there
have been some Coverity rules developed to help look for these, but we
are still evaluating what can be done here.
The other half of Spectre, variant 2 (CVE-2017-5715) is a bit trickier
as it affects both normal processes and bhyve. There is a proposed patch
for LLVM (https://reviews.llvm.org/D41723 https://reviews.llvm.org/D41723) that introduces a concept
called 'retpoline' which mitigates this issue. We are likely to pull
this into HEAD and 11-STABLE once it hits the LLVM tree. Unfortunately,
the currently supported FreeBSD releases are using older versions of
LLVM for which we are not sure the LLVM project will produce patches. We
will be looking at the feasibility to backport these patches to these
earlier versions.
There are CPU microcode fixes coming out when in concert with OS changes
would also help, but that's a bit down the road at the moment.
If anything significantly changes I will make additional posts to
clarify as the information becomes available.
Best regards,
Gordon Tetlow
with security-officer hat on
- rdtsc 9y ago> FreeBSD Security Team was notified of the issue in late December Anyone else thinks this was kind of a slap in the face to the smaller communities and companies or is it just me? They were notified in late December, right before the holidays, so that's basically only 2-3 weeks of work. Obviously nobody _had_ to notify anyone, could have just released it right away, so it was a professional courtesy, but why not extend it to a few more projects? Before anyone says "but OpenBSD broke an embargo before", this is a different project and besides having BSD in the name don't see why they were excluded.
- loeg 9y agoFreeBSD secteam was only notified — at all — because Netflix (a big FreeBSD user) requested it of Intel. It was a big slap in the face to smaller communities by Intel.
- Bromskloss 9y agoHow did Netflix know about it?
- loeg 9y agoI guess, but do not have firsthand knowledge, that Intel disclosed directly to them as a large customer.
- bogomipz 9y ago>"Anyone else thinks this was kind of a slap in the face to the smaller communities and companies or is it just me?" Indeed. There seems to be a security oligarchy now consisting of Google, FB, Apple, Amazon et al. and Intel.
- marcoperaza 9y agoThe more people you tell, the higher the chance of a leak. "Loose lips sink ships."
- 9y ago