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It's materially different because militant vegans don't try to infringe upon my rights. The difference is that if you were advocating for veganism as strongly,
by yttrium 9y ago
It's materially different because militant vegans don't try to infringe upon my rights. The difference is that if you were advocating for veganism as strongly, I can point to the fact that nobody is being hurt by that advocacy. If you're strongly advocating that gay people don't deserve equal rights (at best) or don't deserve to be alive (at worst), then it's very clear your position shouldn't be tolerated.
That's the problem with this whole argument chain - there are clear material differences between advocating strongly against gay people, versus advocating strongly against eating meat.
There is no diversity in opinion that includes bigotry - that's just a way racists, sexists, and other hate mongers hide in communities. Your axioms completely ignore the idea that there are opinions which cause harm without any introduction of violence - something anyone in a marginalized or oppressed group can and has experienced.
Diversity of opinion does not mean accepting opinions which directly and indirectly cause harm to others.
- bobthechef 9y agoFirst of all, why do you claim that opposing gay marriage is causing harm? Those with the strongest arguments against gay marriage will argue that it is a false idea and that its legal recognition is harmful both to society and the individuals involved. You claim that is it harmful to oppose gay marriage why? Because it prevents gay couples from receiving the recognition of the state as a married couple? The fervor and zeal of many pro-gay marriage advocates, their readiness to slander those opposed to gay marriage as harmful bigots, and the claim that gay marriage is a right doesn't square with the arguments they give. The thrust seems to be: everyone must recognize what I want recognized because I want it to be recognized. Otherwise, you're a hateful bigot who wishes to harm me.
- fzeroracer 9y agoWhat kind of ridiculous nonsense is this? People say opposing gay marriage causes harm because it does. There have been multiple instances and examples of gay couples not being able to see their loved ones in the hospital because they're not recognized as a 'real' couple. They died alone as their partners were turned away for the sole crime of being gay. Your attempt to justify your bigotry is disgusting.
- yttrium 9y agoOpposing gay marriage causes harm because it's active oppression, and because it's a argumentative shield for people who have direct opposition to gay people themselves. There are no strong arguments against gay marriage beyond bigotry. You don't have to pretend that you're not a bigot - opposition to gay marriage is bigotry.
- explainplease 9y agoEveryone who disagrees with you is a bigot.