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According to the article, the ads deemed "overly annoying or intrusive" are defined by "the standards established by the Coalition for Better Ads, of which it i
by jicks 9y ago
According to the article, the ads deemed "overly annoying or intrusive" are defined by "the standards established by the Coalition for Better Ads, of which it is a member". Since it's not Google actually deciding this, how is that anti-competitive?
BTW, the Coalition for Better Ads has many members [0], including Facebook and other big ads providers.
I'm personally not convinced this will solve the issue, but I believe it's a least a step in the right direction.
[0] https://www.betterads.org/members/ https://www.betterads.org/members/
- jwilk 9y agoFrom the HN guidelines: Please don't insinuate that someone hasn't read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that."
- pc86 9y agoSaying "According to the article" is not insinuating someone didn't read it. It's actually very close to "The article mentions that" which is the suggested phrase in your very quote.
- exhilaration 9y agoI'm pretty sure GP edited their comment.
- jicks 9y agoI edited my comment to follow the guidelines.
- anon1385 9y agoIs Chrome going to block ads on the Google search results page for taking up more than 30% of the page?
- jicks 9y agoMy guess is no, because while they may take 30%+ of the screen initially, they don't represent 30%+ of the full page (see [0] for more details). [0] https://www.betterads.org/mobile-ad-density-higher-than-30/ https://www.betterads.org/mobile-ad-density-higher-than-30/
- epicide 9y agoThey wouldn't be adding it to Chrome if it did. That's the problem.
- dragonwriter 9y ago> According to the article, the ads deemed "overly annoying or intrusive" are defined by "the standards established by the Coalition for Better Ads, of which it is a member". Since it's not Google actually deciding this, how is that anti-competitive? The argument I see for this: because it's a group Google, an ad seller, is part of deciding what ads are allowed and then Google blocking violating ads. Arguably, by pairing standards with blocking, the Coalition for Better Ads, including Google, are jointly engaging in a combination in restraint of trade. An anti-competitive action doesn't become less anti-competitive when instead of one actor with dominant marketshare, you add additional incumbent actors in the market into the decision process and make it an agreement to restrict what products are acceptable to sell and actively block other products in that category.
- user5994461 9y agoLet's take TV as a comparison. On TV the ads have guidelines on what they can do and show, set by the tv channel and the broader regulation. On the internet, there isn't anything, it's the wild west. It can't hurt to get some minimal standards, doesn't matter where it comes from as long as it's enforced.
- dragonwriter 9y agoLegally, it matters a lot whether it's the government enforcing rules which restrain trade or a private coalition including the major incumbent players in the industry being restrained.
- colanderman 9y ago> set by the tv channel and the broader regulation. Which is key. Television ad regulations aren't set – and enforced – by the dominant advertisement broker.
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- user5994461 9y ago
- kodablah 9y ago> but I believe it's a least a step in the right direction. Boy, I don't. Ask yourself why this is not an extension instead (even if installed by default)? Also, where can I download this ad list? Why do you believe lack of transparency is a step in the right direction? You really believe that the perpetrators are the best enforcers?