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> Of course, this could all be a plot of the evil Imperialist western capitalist powers to strangle the last peoples' stronghold. /s From your sarcasm I take i
by sjeohp 9y ago
> Of course, this could all be a plot of the evil Imperialist western capitalist powers to strangle the last peoples' stronghold. /s
From your sarcasm I take it you're unaware of the history of leftist governments in Central and South America?
- jimmywanger 9y agoI am quite familiar. However, your argument holds no merit. Even with the term "banana republic" there was an economic endgame in sight (e.g. cheaper fruit). This current Venezuela farce has absolutely no redeeming qualities unless you're a member of the ruling elite (of Venezuela). By your reasoning, every economic and/or political collapse in Central/South America can be blamed on the history of United States intervention, absolving the government of all accountability.
- sjeohp 9y agoI wasn't really making an argument, just alluding to the fact that western governments/media have a history of undermining/overthrowing democratic left wing leaders in the region, so mocking the idea as you did was disingenuous. That said, I think it's possible the revolution has deteriorated since the death of Chavez and that corruption is indeed rife. I'm just wary given the history of propaganda. I also think its possible that the administration still has popular support in spite of its real problems, given the violent right-wing nature of the opposition and the apparent lack of credible evidence suggesting otherwise.
- jimmywanger 9y agoNobody is mocking anybody. > the violent right-wing nature of the opposition and the apparent lack of credible evidence suggesting otherwise. People in Venezuela have lost 19 pounds on average in the past couple of years. Take a look at the exchange rates. What is the profit for "right-wing" groups?
- owebmaster 9y ago> People in Venezuela have lost 19 pounds on average in the past couple of years. Looks like the US need some left wing rule. But yeah this is fake news. Don't lie to pretend you have a point kiddo.
- jimmywanger 9y agoNot quite sure what you're referring to. https://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21720289-over-past-year-74-venezuelans-lost-average-87kg-weight-how https://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/2172028... The last time I checked, the Economist is a fairly neutral news organization. Although el gordo Maduro hasn't had too much trouble finding rice and beans, by the look of things.
- owebmaster 9y ago> Not quite sure what you're referring to. How do you know that a country lost weight? They didn't show how they got these numbers, just said it as an IMF forecast. This is plain simple manipulation. It is a shame that my first comment got so many downvotes.
- jimmywanger 9y agohttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/venezuela-weight-loss-average-19lb-pounds-food-shortages-economic-crisis-a7595081.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/venezuela-w... If you distrust all news sources that disagree with your point of view, I don't know what else to say. This study was conducted by Venezuelan universities.
- owebmaster 9y agoYou would be skeptic too if you know a little how Propaganda works world-wide nowadays.
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- fjsolwmv 9y agoEven you grant revolutionaries the benefit of the doubt, when in history has there been a succession to a good second leader? George Washington pulled it off by intentionally giving away his power early and setting a strong precedent of short Presidencies that end before dictatorship crept in.