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Microsoft's reusable component framework for Yammer.com

78 points by luisrudge 9y ago

mikl 9y ago
Yammer.com? Now there’s an unhelpful endorsement. It’s been a while since I used Yammer, but I remember its UI as pretty damn awful.
- cjsuk 9y ago
  Plus like all MSFT frameworks, it'll be abandoned about 3 minutes after it is released. Citations for the downvoters: silverlight, lightswitch, Velocity, AppFabric, Windows Workflow, half of WCF, ...
  - mariusmg 9y ago
    half of WCF Why just half ? :)
- madspindel 9y ago
  It's one of the slowest UIs I know about. We also have a Yammer Embed on our Intranet and it's slow and buggy as well.
koalalorenzo 9y ago
So reusable components from a crappy UI! Thank you Microsoft :~D JK
youdontknowtho 9y ago
I've always liked the hover cards that they use on Yammer, the examples of those are pretty sweet. It's pretty amazing that even this has generated negative comments. This is one of the reasons why I don't feel like I should ever open source any code. Anything I ever release would be something that was of use to me and maybe a few other people. Would I have to actively use and support it for the rest of my life to be "right"? I wonder how many of you complaining actually never open source anything while using lots of it. I guess it's lame to complain about negative comments on the internet, but hacker news is supposed to be different. Open source from Google? That's fantastic. Open Source from Intel, Facebook, Yahoo, or HP? Those are OK too. Open source from Microsoft? Better make sure you've said something negative to make sure that your fan boy card doesn't get pulled.
- youareterrible 9y ago
  Office 365 is awesome and getting better every day. Full motherfuckin’ stop.
  - adzm 9y ago
    If they can get teams to not have so much whitespace it might even be a feasible replacement for slack.
- cjsuk 9y ago
  Have you ever tried to contribute to or use a Microsoft backed open source project before? I have. I've also worked as a partner, SQL certified DBA for the best part of 20 years of my life. Considering we can't even get anything fixed when we're paying for partner support, you're SOL most of the time. I had an issue open for 8 years that we paid to get fixed and all they did was ship a lousy registry fix from first line support. So we have to deploy that fix to about 2000 people because two teams won't take ownership internally. Nice job. It's not about fan boy cards, it's about the fact that MSFT visibly doesn't give a fuck about contributors or clients and will quite happily steamroll over everything whilst their marketing department fanfares repeatedly about how they're embracing open source and they love Linux. You'll find that Open Source to Microsoft means business as usual, just on github, with added marketing fluff.
  - youdontknowtho 9y ago
    So because you have experience with Microsoft (a huge company with many products and projects) that means that anything that they do in open source is automatically BS? I'm actually in close contact with the Microsoft product teams that I depend on, and while I wish they only listened to me, they don't...but it's not the end of the world and it doesn't color every perception I have of them. Even when things are quite bad and they don't have an answer I want to hear...that doesn't mean that I can use that experience as the only criteria for all of my future interactions. What about the stuff that they get right? Does that have any value? People here go crazy about privacy and Intel's ME. They don't flip a crazy bit when Intel releases something open source or judge every product against their hatred of the management engine. Does Intel support every single project that they open source forever? How about IBM?
sickcodebruh 9y ago
Regardless of what you might think about Yammer's UI, a repo full of tested React components written in TypeScript is very valuable as a reference.
- gregod 9y ago
  You might also want to look at the very comprehensive office 365 react components from MS which is build on. https://github.com/OfficeDev/office-ui-fabric-react https://github.com/OfficeDev/office-ui-fabric-react Meant for developing Sharepoint/Office Apps but released under MIT License (Only the custom Microsoft Fonts are restricted but easily replaced)
  - jlebrech 9y ago
    i remember when you'd get a fully featured ui library when you bought a compiler.
    - smacktoward 9y ago
      Nowadays the compilers are free. I guess you get what you pay for.
- draw_down 9y ago
  As a reference, sure.
deburo 9y ago
Did you guys notice that upon returning from a link to yammer to the github page via the back button, a bunch of cards are visible until you scroll?
- unindented 9y ago
  Yup, that's because those hovercards render on `componentDidMount`, and the styleguide renders all components on page load. It's a bit janky, but it only affects the styleguide, so it's low priority. Disclaimer: I work on Yammer, and I've contributed to this project.
mariusmg 9y ago
Well i guess it's nice they open source it but in reality nobody will bother with it. Bootstrap is where the action is these days.
unindented 9y ago
Hey, I work on Yammer, and I'm one of the contributors to this project. YamUI is a cross-team effort between our Design and Frontend teams to create drop-in components for Yammer.com that have strictly-enforced style and behavior. As @gregod said, it is based on Office's awesome Fabric project: https://github.com/OfficeDev/office-ui-fabric-react/ https://github.com/OfficeDev/office-ui-fabric-react/ The project is just us working in the open. We're not trying to push this as a new component framework for others to use, and we probably don't have the bandwidth to support external consumers, but we're happy if people can learn from it.
- rayui 9y ago
  fantastic work, man. great to see this out in the light of day :)

78 points by luisrudge 9y ago

mikl 9y ago

Yammer.com? Now there’s an unhelpful endorsement. It’s been a while since I used Yammer, but I remember its UI as pretty damn awful.

cjsuk 9y ago
Plus like all MSFT frameworks, it'll be abandoned about 3 minutes after it is released. Citations for the downvoters: silverlight, lightswitch, Velocity, AppFabric, Windows Workflow, half of WCF, ...
- mariusmg 9y ago
  half of WCF Why just half ? :)
madspindel 9y ago
It's one of the slowest UIs I know about. We also have a Yammer Embed on our Intranet and it's slow and buggy as well.

koalalorenzo 9y ago

So reusable components from a crappy UI! Thank you Microsoft :~D JK

youdontknowtho 9y ago

I've always liked the hover cards that they use on Yammer, the examples of those are pretty sweet. It's pretty amazing that even this has generated negative comments. This is one of the reasons why I don't feel like I should ever open source any code. Anything I ever release would be something that was of use to me and maybe a few other people. Would I have to actively use and support it for the rest of my life to be "right"? I wonder how many of you complaining actually never open source anything while using lots of it. I guess it's lame to complain about negative comments on the internet, but hacker news is supposed to be different. Open source from Google? That's fantastic. Open Source from Intel, Facebook, Yahoo, or HP? Those are OK too. Open source from Microsoft? Better make sure you've said something negative to make sure that your fan boy card doesn't get pulled.

youareterrible 9y ago
Office 365 is awesome and getting better every day. Full motherfuckin’ stop.
- adzm 9y ago
  If they can get teams to not have so much whitespace it might even be a feasible replacement for slack.
cjsuk 9y ago
Have you ever tried to contribute to or use a Microsoft backed open source project before? I have. I've also worked as a partner, SQL certified DBA for the best part of 20 years of my life. Considering we can't even get anything fixed when we're paying for partner support, you're SOL most of the time. I had an issue open for 8 years that we paid to get fixed and all they did was ship a lousy registry fix from first line support. So we have to deploy that fix to about 2000 people because two teams won't take ownership internally. Nice job. It's not about fan boy cards, it's about the fact that MSFT visibly doesn't give a fuck about contributors or clients and will quite happily steamroll over everything whilst their marketing department fanfares repeatedly about how they're embracing open source and they love Linux. You'll find that Open Source to Microsoft means business as usual, just on github, with added marketing fluff.
- youdontknowtho 9y ago
  So because you have experience with Microsoft (a huge company with many products and projects) that means that anything that they do in open source is automatically BS? I'm actually in close contact with the Microsoft product teams that I depend on, and while I wish they only listened to me, they don't...but it's not the end of the world and it doesn't color every perception I have of them. Even when things are quite bad and they don't have an answer I want to hear...that doesn't mean that I can use that experience as the only criteria for all of my future interactions. What about the stuff that they get right? Does that have any value? People here go crazy about privacy and Intel's ME. They don't flip a crazy bit when Intel releases something open source or judge every product against their hatred of the management engine. Does Intel support every single project that they open source forever? How about IBM?

sickcodebruh 9y ago

Regardless of what you might think about Yammer's UI, a repo full of tested React components written in TypeScript is very valuable as a reference.

gregod 9y ago
You might also want to look at the very comprehensive office 365 react components from MS which is build on. https://github.com/OfficeDev/office-ui-fabric-react https://github.com/OfficeDev/office-ui-fabric-react Meant for developing Sharepoint/Office Apps but released under MIT License (Only the custom Microsoft Fonts are restricted but easily replaced)
- jlebrech 9y ago
  i remember when you'd get a fully featured ui library when you bought a compiler.
  - smacktoward 9y ago
    Nowadays the compilers are free. I guess you get what you pay for.
draw_down 9y ago
As a reference, sure.

deburo 9y ago

Did you guys notice that upon returning from a link to yammer to the github page via the back button, a bunch of cards are visible until you scroll?

unindented 9y ago
Yup, that's because those hovercards render on `componentDidMount`, and the styleguide renders all components on page load. It's a bit janky, but it only affects the styleguide, so it's low priority. Disclaimer: I work on Yammer, and I've contributed to this project.

mariusmg 9y ago

Well i guess it's nice they open source it but in reality nobody will bother with it. Bootstrap is where the action is these days.

unindented 9y ago

Hey, I work on Yammer, and I'm one of the contributors to this project. YamUI is a cross-team effort between our Design and Frontend teams to create drop-in components for Yammer.com that have strictly-enforced style and behavior. As @gregod said, it is based on Office's awesome Fabric project: https://github.com/OfficeDev/office-ui-fabric-react/ https://github.com/OfficeDev/office-ui-fabric-react/ The project is just us working in the open. We're not trying to push this as a new component framework for others to use, and we probably don't have the bandwidth to support external consumers, but we're happy if people can learn from it.

rayui 9y ago
fantastic work, man. great to see this out in the light of day :)