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However you do realize that sanctuary cities, abortion, second amendment rights or any other wedge issue those in Appalachia did not stand with the Democratic p

However you do realize that sanctuary cities, abortion, second amendment rights or any other wedge issue those in Appalachia did not stand with the Democratic party on and voted for their own interests when it came to employment edit @CalChris Because your reading comprehension is not the best. They voted for their own economic interests by voting Democratic. You do realize in 2008 both of WVs Senators were Dems and so was their governor. Since the Depression the vast majority of West Virginia's Senate seats have been filled by Dems

ceejayoz 9y ago
> voted for their own interests when it came to employment And they'll find themselves with no long-term improvement in employment, and a dramatically weaker safety net as a bonus.
CalChris 9y ago
Perhaps you can explain how WV voted for their own interests when it came to employment. Their unemployment rate rose dramatically with W's 2008 Great Recession and then steadily fell during the Obama years. https://data.bls.gov/generated_files/graphics/latest_numbers_LASST540000000000004_2007_2017_all_period_M09_data_unemployment%2Brate.gif https://data.bls.gov/generated_files/graphics/latest_numbers... Looks more like Cheeto took them for a ride. He does that. Is WV voting its interest in the opioid crisis? I don't think more guns, gays and god will get them out of it.
- catawbasam 9y ago
  Dem here, but I haven't seen a whole lot of priority given by my party to opioids. Back pre-Trump there was much more attention being given to Transgender kids and sexual assault of college women. When people are despised and neglected, they tend to notice.
  - CalChris 9y ago
    Another Dem here. The opioid crisis starts in 2010. The Republicans took over the House in 2010 and the Senate in 2014. Congress then grounded to a halt and broadly rejected anything Obama proposed even going so far as to shut down the government. Congress is still halted. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid_epidemic#/media/File%3AOverdose_Deaths_Involving_Opioids%2C_United_States%2C_2000-2015.jpg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid_epidemic#/media/File%... Not sure why the governing party isn’t being held responsible for, you know, governing. The transgender kids and sexual assault of college women coverage was on Fox. Again, guns, gays and god ain’t gonna get us out of this. But it will deliver the votes in places like WV.
    - dragonwriter 9y ago
      > The opioid crisis starts in 2010. People innth field were talking about it before that, but meth was still getting more attention; that's pretty much true of each of the unbroken sequence of specific-drug abuse crises, too.
    - throwit12347 9y ago
      BS the opioid crisis was in full swing by 2010 and began in the late 90s early 2000s that graph you have linked to shows as much. This thread sure reads as though you're keen on burying your head in the sand. The spike in heroin deaths in 2010 is because of a crackdown on pill mills and the opiate addicts having to find another fix
      - CalChris 9y ago
        The prescription drug part of the crisis begins in 2010 at the inflection point. Those prescriptions were something a willful Congress could have addressed.
        throwit12347 9y ago
        Lol no it didn't read your own submission, you appear to be an empty ideologue >What the U.S. Surgeon General calls "The Opioid Crisis" likely began with over-prescription of powerful opioid pain relievers in the 1990s, which led to them becoming the most prescribed class of medications in the United States. Edit: also when you edit your post please make note of it, that's the third version of your post now
  - dragonwriter 9y ago
    > Dem here, but I haven't seen a whole lot of priority given by my party to opioids. Whack-a-mole with specific drugs isn't a solution, it is something that will never make any progress but can generate the perpetual illusion of action. You want to deal with cocaine/crack/meth/opioids and whatever tomorrow's iteration is, you deal with the health (including mental health and substance use disorder) prevention and treatment system, including cost and access issues, broadly. And the Dems are the only ones that aren't actively fighting to make that worse, rather than better, across the board. Everything else is the equivalent of shipping homeless from one town to the next to “fix” homelessness.
- masonic 9y ago
  Did you read your own chart? The "Obama years" 1/09-1/17) began at just over 5%, then went UP over 60% from there, to 8.6% or so. In fact, it was worse during the "Obama years" than before or after. "Steadily fell during the Obama years" is a flat lie.

ceejayoz 9y ago

> voted for their own interests when it came to employment And they'll find themselves with no long-term improvement in employment, and a dramatically weaker safety net as a bonus.

CalChris 9y ago

Perhaps you can explain how WV voted for their own interests when it came to employment. Their unemployment rate rose dramatically with W's 2008 Great Recession and then steadily fell during the Obama years. https://data.bls.gov/generated_files/graphics/latest_numbers_LASST540000000000004_2007_2017_all_period_M09_data_unemployment%2Brate.gif https://data.bls.gov/generated_files/graphics/latest_numbers... Looks more like Cheeto took them for a ride. He does that. Is WV voting its interest in the opioid crisis? I don't think more guns, gays and god will get them out of it.

catawbasam 9y ago
Dem here, but I haven't seen a whole lot of priority given by my party to opioids. Back pre-Trump there was much more attention being given to Transgender kids and sexual assault of college women. When people are despised and neglected, they tend to notice.
- CalChris 9y ago
  Another Dem here. The opioid crisis starts in 2010. The Republicans took over the House in 2010 and the Senate in 2014. Congress then grounded to a halt and broadly rejected anything Obama proposed even going so far as to shut down the government. Congress is still halted. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid_epidemic#/media/File%3AOverdose_Deaths_Involving_Opioids%2C_United_States%2C_2000-2015.jpg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid_epidemic#/media/File%... Not sure why the governing party isn’t being held responsible for, you know, governing. The transgender kids and sexual assault of college women coverage was on Fox. Again, guns, gays and god ain’t gonna get us out of this. But it will deliver the votes in places like WV.
  - dragonwriter 9y ago
    > The opioid crisis starts in 2010. People innth field were talking about it before that, but meth was still getting more attention; that's pretty much true of each of the unbroken sequence of specific-drug abuse crises, too.
  - throwit12347 9y ago
    BS the opioid crisis was in full swing by 2010 and began in the late 90s early 2000s that graph you have linked to shows as much. This thread sure reads as though you're keen on burying your head in the sand. The spike in heroin deaths in 2010 is because of a crackdown on pill mills and the opiate addicts having to find another fix
    - CalChris 9y ago
      The prescription drug part of the crisis begins in 2010 at the inflection point. Those prescriptions were something a willful Congress could have addressed.
      - throwit12347 9y ago
        Lol no it didn't read your own submission, you appear to be an empty ideologue >What the U.S. Surgeon General calls "The Opioid Crisis" likely began with over-prescription of powerful opioid pain relievers in the 1990s, which led to them becoming the most prescribed class of medications in the United States. Edit: also when you edit your post please make note of it, that's the third version of your post now
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  > Dem here, but I haven't seen a whole lot of priority given by my party to opioids. Whack-a-mole with specific drugs isn't a solution, it is something that will never make any progress but can generate the perpetual illusion of action. You want to deal with cocaine/crack/meth/opioids and whatever tomorrow's iteration is, you deal with the health (including mental health and substance use disorder) prevention and treatment system, including cost and access issues, broadly. And the Dems are the only ones that aren't actively fighting to make that worse, rather than better, across the board. Everything else is the equivalent of shipping homeless from one town to the next to “fix” homelessness.
masonic 9y ago
Did you read your own chart? The "Obama years" 1/09-1/17) began at just over 5%, then went UP over 60% from there, to 8.6% or so. In fact, it was worse during the "Obama years" than before or after. "Steadily fell during the Obama years" is a flat lie.