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In Siberia power is paying for you! Seriously though in Irkutsk electricity is about 0.017usd per kilowatt/hour

by in_hindsight 9y ago

evgenyq 9y ago
it's kilowatt*hour to be correct. btw, a night rate is even less, somewhere around 0.01usd
- in_hindsight 9y ago
  Yes and if it’s countryside, even less I guess
  - ComodoHacker 9y ago
    Free, if you're lucky or inspector is your buddy.
jsmthrowaway 9y ago
For comparison, PG&E E1 baseline for California is currently $0.19979/kWh. As in, 12x more. God help you if you wander from baseline. https://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-1.pdf https://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-1.pdf Even using a time-of-use plan like E6 (which they don't allow any more), off-peak is $0.16728/kWh in the summer, and peak summer is $0.35933/kWh. The ETOU-A and ETOU-B plans they're pushing people toward bottom out at $0.17279/kWh winter off-peak, up to $0.36335/kWh. Again, all baseline figures. Electric Vehicles and over-baseline (read: mining) will punish you to death. https://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-TOU.pdf https://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-TOU.pdf In those rate plans, PG&E apparently spends more on transmission alone than Siberian customers entirely pay for service. Also, good luck explaining the plan structure to someone; it took me 20 minutes of edits just to put this comment together coherently.
- evgenyq 9y ago
  Oh, you have all that med insurance shit for those smarties who can handle electricity rate plans.
  - jsmthrowaway 9y ago
    CARE doesn't help as much as you'd think, but yes.
- smsm42 9y ago
  That's why SolarCity PPA is so popular - the whole idea is that they shift most of your electricity consumption back into the 1s tier. Probably still not enough for mining though unless you can make a deal where you get way over regular capacity in solar for the same price.
sorenjan 9y ago
How is it produced though? I'm guessing in large parts by fossil fuel.
- scarlac 9y ago
  In the video they interview the guy who lives next to a hydro plant, so pretty green energy.
- smsm42 9y ago
  This one most likely: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irkutsk_Hydroelectric_Power_Station https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irkutsk_Hydroelectric_Power_St... Siberia has huge rivers which are very suitable for building hydroelectric because the accompanying flooding happens in mostly uninhabited areas and thus has relatively little costs.
smsm42 9y ago
Here are the prices: http://energovopros.ru/spravochnik/elektrosnabzhenie/tarify-na-elektroenergiju/2985/40992/ http://energovopros.ru/spravochnik/elektrosnabzhenie/tarify-... (if you read Russian, or use Google translate). Yes, pretty close to 1c/kWh.

In Siberia power is paying for you! Seriously though in Irkutsk electricity is about 0.017usd per kilowatt/hour

evgenyq 9y ago

it's kilowatt*hour to be correct. btw, a night rate is even less, somewhere around 0.01usd

in_hindsight 9y ago
Yes and if it’s countryside, even less I guess
- ComodoHacker 9y ago
  Free, if you're lucky or inspector is your buddy.

jsmthrowaway 9y ago

For comparison, PG&E E1 baseline for California is currently $0.19979/kWh. As in, 12x more. God help you if you wander from baseline. https://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-1.pdf https://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-1.pdf Even using a time-of-use plan like E6 (which they don't allow any more), off-peak is $0.16728/kWh in the summer, and peak summer is $0.35933/kWh. The ETOU-A and ETOU-B plans they're pushing people toward bottom out at $0.17279/kWh winter off-peak, up to $0.36335/kWh. Again, all baseline figures. Electric Vehicles and over-baseline (read: mining) will punish you to death. https://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-TOU.pdf https://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-TOU.pdf In those rate plans, PG&E apparently spends more on transmission alone than Siberian customers entirely pay for service. Also, good luck explaining the plan structure to someone; it took me 20 minutes of edits just to put this comment together coherently.

evgenyq 9y ago
Oh, you have all that med insurance shit for those smarties who can handle electricity rate plans.
- jsmthrowaway 9y ago
  CARE doesn't help as much as you'd think, but yes.
smsm42 9y ago
That's why SolarCity PPA is so popular - the whole idea is that they shift most of your electricity consumption back into the 1s tier. Probably still not enough for mining though unless you can make a deal where you get way over regular capacity in solar for the same price.

sorenjan 9y ago

How is it produced though? I'm guessing in large parts by fossil fuel.

scarlac 9y ago
In the video they interview the guy who lives next to a hydro plant, so pretty green energy.
smsm42 9y ago
This one most likely: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irkutsk_Hydroelectric_Power_Station https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irkutsk_Hydroelectric_Power_St... Siberia has huge rivers which are very suitable for building hydroelectric because the accompanying flooding happens in mostly uninhabited areas and thus has relatively little costs.

smsm42 9y ago

Here are the prices: http://energovopros.ru/spravochnik/elektrosnabzhenie/tarify-na-elektroenergiju/2985/40992/ http://energovopros.ru/spravochnik/elektrosnabzhenie/tarify-... (if you read Russian, or use Google translate). Yes, pretty close to 1c/kWh.