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I'd call it an interpretation, not a theory. But clearly the conflicting inputs was a UI problem, and while there may be tradeoffs, a better UI could have preve

I'd call it an interpretation, not a theory. But clearly the conflicting inputs was a UI problem, and while there may be tradeoffs, a better UI could have prevented the AF 447 crash.

foldr 9y ago
This really won't die. It's clear if you read the accident report (linked in another comment) that the plane was already doomed by the time that conflicting inputs were potentially a factor.
inferiorhuman 9y ago
Basic airmanship could've prevented the crash too. The pilot-in-command got a stall warning and pulled back on the stick, climbing to 38,000 feet. That's not a UI issue, it's a forgetting one of the most fundamental rules of flying issue. https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/1418/what-happens-when-an-airplane-stalls-and-why-do-pilots-practice-it https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/1418/what-happe...
- dredmorbius 9y ago
  UI issues contribute to situational complexity, stress, ambiguity, and failures to respond appropriately to circumstances. And whilst the BEA report ... rather inexplicably, frankly ... fails to mention the inputs issues, it does address all the other factors I've described here.
- avar 9y ago
  You normally can't stall an Airbus aircraft, except in cases where the flight mode changes as it did in this situation. This was a huge part of the problem, an emergency occurred and the pilots were effectively flying an aircraft they hadn't flown before. Fully pulling back the stick is what you'd normally do in an Airbus to gain altitude. It's guaranteed not to stall the plane.
  - inferiorhuman 9y ago
    > Fully pulling back the stick is what you'd normally do in an Airbus to gain altitude. It's guaranteed not to stall the plane. I'd love to see some documentation on "pull back in a stall". In fact, this is all I could find: http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/415373-new-airbus-stall-recovery-procedure.html http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/415373-new-airbus-stall-recov...

I'd call it an interpretation, not a theory. But clearly the conflicting inputs was a UI problem, and while there may be tradeoffs, a better UI could have prevented the AF 447 crash.

foldr 9y ago

This really won't die. It's clear if you read the accident report (linked in another comment) that the plane was already doomed by the time that conflicting inputs were potentially a factor.

inferiorhuman 9y ago

Basic airmanship could've prevented the crash too. The pilot-in-command got a stall warning and pulled back on the stick, climbing to 38,000 feet. That's not a UI issue, it's a forgetting one of the most fundamental rules of flying issue. https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/1418/what-happens-when-an-airplane-stalls-and-why-do-pilots-practice-it https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/1418/what-happe...

dredmorbius 9y ago
UI issues contribute to situational complexity, stress, ambiguity, and failures to respond appropriately to circumstances. And whilst the BEA report ... rather inexplicably, frankly ... fails to mention the inputs issues, it does address all the other factors I've described here.
avar 9y ago
You normally can't stall an Airbus aircraft, except in cases where the flight mode changes as it did in this situation. This was a huge part of the problem, an emergency occurred and the pilots were effectively flying an aircraft they hadn't flown before. Fully pulling back the stick is what you'd normally do in an Airbus to gain altitude. It's guaranteed not to stall the plane.
- inferiorhuman 9y ago
  > Fully pulling back the stick is what you'd normally do in an Airbus to gain altitude. It's guaranteed not to stall the plane. I'd love to see some documentation on "pull back in a stall". In fact, this is all I could find: http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/415373-new-airbus-stall-recovery-procedure.html http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/415373-new-airbus-stall-recov...