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Intel has a big assembly site there (Chengdu, China) but fabs are still in the US, Israel, Ireland. I wonder what Trump has to say about this move by Elon.

seanmcdirmid 9y ago
I believe Intel tests in Chengdu, they don't need final assembly of CPUs. Intel also has an Asian fab in Singapore, I think.
- Godel_unicode 9y ago
  They have a Fab (fab 68) in Dalian China for their 65nn process node on 300mm wafers, and an assembly/test site in Chengdu. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_manufacturing_sites https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_manufacturing_...
  - seanmcdirmid 9y ago
    Ah, ya, and Singapore was just flash (did they fab there before), and that is just Micron now to boot. At 65nm, they aren't fabbing CPU there, probably just supporting chips.
  - baybal2 9y ago
    It puzzles me why Intel Chinese fabs are located in such middle of nowhere where their logistics costs will be sky high
    - gruturo 9y ago
      As far as I know (which is admittedly very little), Intel's fabs require massive amounts of stable electricity and clean water. Maybe proximity to such resources is their driver in this case.
    - seanmcdirmid 9y ago
      Huh? Chengdu doesn't have a fab and is hardly in the middle of nowhere. Normal logistic costs. Dalian is in a highly industrialized liaoning province, again highly populated and lots of resources. Again, normal logistic costs. If they put it in the middle of gansu or qinghai or maybe Northern Yunnan or southern Sichuan (pretty much the Tibetan plateau), that would be the middle of nowhere.
MechEStudent 9y ago
None of the "magic smoke" in those chips is made in China. The "secret sauce" is all done in the US, in Oregon and Arizona. The US turns raw silicon into wafers full of chips. The plants in China, as far as I personally understand, are doing the work of cutting the wafers up, and connecting to mini-PCB boards. They are doing the labor-intensive part of the production, and nothing of the understanding-intensive part of engineering.

seanmcdirmid 9y ago

I believe Intel tests in Chengdu, they don't need final assembly of CPUs. Intel also has an Asian fab in Singapore, I think.

Godel_unicode 9y ago
They have a Fab (fab 68) in Dalian China for their 65nn process node on 300mm wafers, and an assembly/test site in Chengdu. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_manufacturing_sites https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_manufacturing_...
- seanmcdirmid 9y ago
  Ah, ya, and Singapore was just flash (did they fab there before), and that is just Micron now to boot. At 65nm, they aren't fabbing CPU there, probably just supporting chips.
- baybal2 9y ago
  It puzzles me why Intel Chinese fabs are located in such middle of nowhere where their logistics costs will be sky high
  - gruturo 9y ago
    As far as I know (which is admittedly very little), Intel's fabs require massive amounts of stable electricity and clean water. Maybe proximity to such resources is their driver in this case.
  - seanmcdirmid 9y ago
    Huh? Chengdu doesn't have a fab and is hardly in the middle of nowhere. Normal logistic costs. Dalian is in a highly industrialized liaoning province, again highly populated and lots of resources. Again, normal logistic costs. If they put it in the middle of gansu or qinghai or maybe Northern Yunnan or southern Sichuan (pretty much the Tibetan plateau), that would be the middle of nowhere.

MechEStudent 9y ago

None of the "magic smoke" in those chips is made in China. The "secret sauce" is all done in the US, in Oregon and Arizona. The US turns raw silicon into wafers full of chips. The plants in China, as far as I personally understand, are doing the work of cutting the wafers up, and connecting to mini-PCB boards. They are doing the labor-intensive part of the production, and nothing of the understanding-intensive part of engineering.