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That perception becomes even more laughable when you realize that the 51 year old female in question is in the top .3% of income globally, while the "permanent

That perception becomes even more laughable when you realize that the 51 year old female in question is in the top .3% of income globally, while the "permanent underclass" are in the .4% - .8%.

notfromhere 9y ago
global averages are also meaningless. No one cares if you're doing better than subsistence farmers in west africa if you're having trouble paying rent on your shitty apartment and living paycheck to paycheck in the wealthiest country in the world
- KekDemaga 9y ago
  You know in movies where the villain rich kid goes to a nice upper middle class home and calls the place a dump? That's what the global poor (as in virtually everyone on the planet) see when western "poor people" complain. It's really tone deaf and quite frankly it only takes a few minutes thought to realize all the talk of "fairness" and "equality" is window dressing and all they are purposing is the .1%'s wealth being redistributed to the .2% - .8%, ignoring the 99.2% of human beings who are actually poor and suffer on a scale that no westerner will ever experience. If 99% of the world would swap places with you economically speaking how on earth do you get to call yourself poor?
  - ocb 9y ago
    Ignoring your completely made up percentiles and the fact that you're a right-wing troll, poor people in the US get to call themselves poor because they face real problems where the not-poor don't. Access to healthy food, healthcare, housing, quality education, etc. are all diminished for low-income people.
    - KekDemaga 9y ago
      "Ignoring your completely made up percentiles" You are right, I didn't know the median income moved so much last year. US Median income = 59,039[0] = the top .2% globally[3] Average US Worker Pay = 44,148[2] = the top .43% globally[3] [0]http://www.businessinsider.com/us-census-median-income-2017-9 http://www.businessinsider.com/us-census-median-income-2017-... [2]https://www.thebalance.com/average-salary-information-for-us-workers-2060808 https://www.thebalance.com/average-salary-information-for-us... [3]http://www.globalrichlist.com/ http://www.globalrichlist.com/ "Access to healthy food, healthcare, housing, quality education, etc. are all diminished for low-income people." And non existent for most of the planet. EDIT: In regards to the numbers not adding up, You do understand that children don't work right? Remove children (the largest generation ever is currently in high school), then the roughly 40% or so of adults that are unemployed, retired or otherwise out of the workforce and it makes more sense. If you aren't convinced take a look at salaries in European nations, if you happen to find some reasonably high ones on average take a look at the population numbers of those nations.
      - ocb 9y ago
        I'm not going to engage with you beyond this but that doesn't even make sense given that the US makes up ~4-5% of the world population.
  - majormajor 9y ago
    Why am I expected to be more concerned with fixing the problems of someone ten thousand miles away instead of the guy I see on the street near where I live? Are we both lucky? Sure. Should we feel bad for that? I also wonder how a world with 7,600 million people can have a country of 323 million people that's all in the top 1% of people worldwide.
  - notfromhere 9y ago
    this is the adult version of "there's starving kids in africa, so finish your food". It does absolutely nothing but try to delegitimize the real struggles that the poor face in America.
xigency 9y ago
I disagree with your numbers. I don't think impoverished Americans fall in the top 1% globally in terms of wealth.
scythe 9y ago
These numbers aren't even close to accurate. The actual position of the US underclass (bottom quintile) is more like the 60-85th percentile of global income. After adjusting for CPI it's clear that poverty in the United States is very real. https://pseudoerasmus.com/2014/09/29/world-income-distribution/ https://pseudoerasmus.com/2014/09/29/world-income-distributi... The US underclass also suffer the social and psychological effects of being the underclass, i.e. weaker social support networks and exclusion from the millieu of political priorities.

That perception becomes even more laughable when you realize that the 51 year old female in question is in the top .3% of income globally, while the "permanent underclass" are in the .4% - .8%.

notfromhere 9y ago

global averages are also meaningless. No one cares if you're doing better than subsistence farmers in west africa if you're having trouble paying rent on your shitty apartment and living paycheck to paycheck in the wealthiest country in the world

KekDemaga 9y ago
You know in movies where the villain rich kid goes to a nice upper middle class home and calls the place a dump? That's what the global poor (as in virtually everyone on the planet) see when western "poor people" complain. It's really tone deaf and quite frankly it only takes a few minutes thought to realize all the talk of "fairness" and "equality" is window dressing and all they are purposing is the .1%'s wealth being redistributed to the .2% - .8%, ignoring the 99.2% of human beings who are actually poor and suffer on a scale that no westerner will ever experience. If 99% of the world would swap places with you economically speaking how on earth do you get to call yourself poor?
- ocb 9y ago
  Ignoring your completely made up percentiles and the fact that you're a right-wing troll, poor people in the US get to call themselves poor because they face real problems where the not-poor don't. Access to healthy food, healthcare, housing, quality education, etc. are all diminished for low-income people.
  - KekDemaga 9y ago
    "Ignoring your completely made up percentiles" You are right, I didn't know the median income moved so much last year. US Median income = 59,039[0] = the top .2% globally[3] Average US Worker Pay = 44,148[2] = the top .43% globally[3] [0]http://www.businessinsider.com/us-census-median-income-2017-9 http://www.businessinsider.com/us-census-median-income-2017-... [2]https://www.thebalance.com/average-salary-information-for-us-workers-2060808 https://www.thebalance.com/average-salary-information-for-us... [3]http://www.globalrichlist.com/ http://www.globalrichlist.com/ "Access to healthy food, healthcare, housing, quality education, etc. are all diminished for low-income people." And non existent for most of the planet. EDIT: In regards to the numbers not adding up, You do understand that children don't work right? Remove children (the largest generation ever is currently in high school), then the roughly 40% or so of adults that are unemployed, retired or otherwise out of the workforce and it makes more sense. If you aren't convinced take a look at salaries in European nations, if you happen to find some reasonably high ones on average take a look at the population numbers of those nations.
    - ocb 9y ago
      I'm not going to engage with you beyond this but that doesn't even make sense given that the US makes up ~4-5% of the world population.
- majormajor 9y ago
  Why am I expected to be more concerned with fixing the problems of someone ten thousand miles away instead of the guy I see on the street near where I live? Are we both lucky? Sure. Should we feel bad for that? I also wonder how a world with 7,600 million people can have a country of 323 million people that's all in the top 1% of people worldwide.
- notfromhere 9y ago
  this is the adult version of "there's starving kids in africa, so finish your food". It does absolutely nothing but try to delegitimize the real struggles that the poor face in America.

xigency 9y ago

I disagree with your numbers. I don't think impoverished Americans fall in the top 1% globally in terms of wealth.

scythe 9y ago

These numbers aren't even close to accurate. The actual position of the US underclass (bottom quintile) is more like the 60-85th percentile of global income. After adjusting for CPI it's clear that poverty in the United States is very real. https://pseudoerasmus.com/2014/09/29/world-income-distribution/ https://pseudoerasmus.com/2014/09/29/world-income-distributi... The US underclass also suffer the social and psychological effects of being the underclass, i.e. weaker social support networks and exclusion from the millieu of political priorities.