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Very common. However, if you want to stay and it’s just about money or title I would suggest talking to your director of recruiting or engineering manager. In

Very common. However, if you want to stay and it’s just about money or title I would suggest talking to your director of recruiting or engineering manager. In my experience, chatting with them and being honest saying like “I love the company, but I’ve gotten some verbal offers/interest from company X, Y, X and the package they’re offering + the challenges they want me to solve are very intriguing. I’m loyal, so I haven’t taken any interviews as I really want to solve challenges here but this looks like a great opportunity. What can we do to make my current role as competitive that these ones?” You have to be willing to leave though, as they might just say nope and that’s the end of it. I used that same tactic, along with a proposal of what I wanted to do/be paid, and got a hefty increase. It costs a lot to find developers, then to hire good ones. It can be $5-20k + the domain knowledge you have so it’s not cheap to replace a good developer.

lj3 9y ago
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- jdc0589 9y ago
  it happens a lot. every time ive quit a job my employer has tried to counter. same story for most co-workers that were good/highly valued.
expertentipp 9y ago
> It costs a lot to find developers, then to hire good ones. It can be $5-20k + the domain knowledge you have so it’s not cheap to replace a good developer. My experience is different. Avalanche the expensive and experienced devs with more and more work until they signalize that the team requires upsizing, make them resign. Fish for students, contractors. Hire contractors exclusively through a chain of intermediaries, so their salary and employee rights will be minuscule and they will have no leverage to say "no" to the most ridiculous bullshit. Please tell me there exist companies which appreciate their specialists, which offer a significant payrise to make them stay. I have yet to encounter and work for one.
- infinite8s 9y ago
  What industry is this? Haven't seen this in finance.
  - expertentipp 9y ago
    IT in post-Communist EU countries. There are global banks employing here as well, but that's the absolute bottom of outsourcing food chain. Met the practices I described above as well in Germany.

lj3 9y ago

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jdc0589 9y ago
it happens a lot. every time ive quit a job my employer has tried to counter. same story for most co-workers that were good/highly valued.

expertentipp 9y ago

> It costs a lot to find developers, then to hire good ones. It can be $5-20k + the domain knowledge you have so it’s not cheap to replace a good developer. My experience is different. Avalanche the expensive and experienced devs with more and more work until they signalize that the team requires upsizing, make them resign. Fish for students, contractors. Hire contractors exclusively through a chain of intermediaries, so their salary and employee rights will be minuscule and they will have no leverage to say "no" to the most ridiculous bullshit. Please tell me there exist companies which appreciate their specialists, which offer a significant payrise to make them stay. I have yet to encounter and work for one.

infinite8s 9y ago
What industry is this? Haven't seen this in finance.
- expertentipp 9y ago
  IT in post-Communist EU countries. There are global banks employing here as well, but that's the absolute bottom of outsourcing food chain. Met the practices I described above as well in Germany.