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Never before could a woman open an app and literally have hundreds of men at her door within minutes (all while men struggle to get a single match). This has cr

Never before could a woman open an app and literally have hundreds of men at her door within minutes (all while men struggle to get a single match). This has created such an imbalance that the women are able to reject roughly the bottom 80% of men leaving most men struggling to get the attention of the bottom 20% of women. And yes, there are lots of men with shortcomings, physical ones, that have rendered them out of the modern dating pool whereas in the past they would have met an equivalent woman. That's no longer the case as that equivalent woman can demand a much higher quality man -- there's an unlimited supply of men to pick from.

RickS 9y ago
I'm going to venture a guess that you spend a lot of time on r/incels. I'm going to further guess that you're using a throwaway because somewhere in your mind, you realize that what you're saying is cranky, entitled, and doesn't hold water. I won't reply after this. Sorry you feel cheated by the world.
- bitL 9y ago
  I think there was some machine learning-based article from some dating site (PoF? Tinder?) a few years back that more-less supported those claims? I don't use dating apps so have no idea what the "market" is but I am sure dating sites have the ability to extract perfect stats - maybe somebody from there could chip in and tell us? "Applied Sociology" anyone?
- coop-throwaway 9y ago
  I don't feel cheated. I'm married with kids and had great luck with women. I care about the social aspects of this.
- dang 9y ago
  Please don't reply to a problematic comment by making the thread still worse. I realize it's hard to resist, but we have to ban accounts that attack other users this way, regardless of how correct your underlying point is. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
johnny22 9y ago
Are you concerned about this because of your own issues with dating?
- coop-throwaway 9y ago
  No. I'm married. With children. I'm very interested in the social aspects of this though.
mannigfaltig 9y ago
The statistics in this article contradict what you say: http://www.slate.com/articles/life/moneybox/2015/05/sex_history_calculator_is_your_number_of_sexual_partners_low_average_or.html http://www.slate.com/articles/life/moneybox/2015/05/sex_hist...
lsc 9y ago
I think it is worse (and better) than it seems when you assume that your competition is other men. It's not that you have to prove yourself better than other men; you have to prove that being with you is better than being alone. Harder than that, you don't only have to prove yourself, you have to continue to remain better than being alone. (I mean, I'm typing this from a male perspective, because that's what I know, and because I think that men have always had more freedom to 'opt out' than women, meaning that women having this power to 'opt out' is a relatively new phenomena, but I imagine that this cuts both ways) Emancipation, I think, is a social good... and yes, that means we all will spend more time alone, but being alone is dramatically better, in my experience, than being in a bad relationship, even if it's dramatically worse than being in a good relationship. But maintaining a relationship is difficult, and now that most people have the option of saying "I'd rather be alone" many of them do, at least some of the time.

RickS 9y ago

I'm going to venture a guess that you spend a lot of time on r/incels. I'm going to further guess that you're using a throwaway because somewhere in your mind, you realize that what you're saying is cranky, entitled, and doesn't hold water. I won't reply after this. Sorry you feel cheated by the world.

bitL 9y ago
I think there was some machine learning-based article from some dating site (PoF? Tinder?) a few years back that more-less supported those claims? I don't use dating apps so have no idea what the "market" is but I am sure dating sites have the ability to extract perfect stats - maybe somebody from there could chip in and tell us? "Applied Sociology" anyone?
coop-throwaway 9y ago
I don't feel cheated. I'm married with kids and had great luck with women. I care about the social aspects of this.
dang 9y ago
Please don't reply to a problematic comment by making the thread still worse. I realize it's hard to resist, but we have to ban accounts that attack other users this way, regardless of how correct your underlying point is. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

johnny22 9y ago

Are you concerned about this because of your own issues with dating?

coop-throwaway 9y ago
No. I'm married. With children. I'm very interested in the social aspects of this though.

mannigfaltig 9y ago

The statistics in this article contradict what you say: http://www.slate.com/articles/life/moneybox/2015/05/sex_history_calculator_is_your_number_of_sexual_partners_low_average_or.html http://www.slate.com/articles/life/moneybox/2015/05/sex_hist...

lsc 9y ago

I think it is worse (and better) than it seems when you assume that your competition is other men. It's not that you have to prove yourself better than other men; you have to prove that being with you is better than being alone. Harder than that, you don't only have to prove yourself, you have to continue to remain better than being alone. (I mean, I'm typing this from a male perspective, because that's what I know, and because I think that men have always had more freedom to 'opt out' than women, meaning that women having this power to 'opt out' is a relatively new phenomena, but I imagine that this cuts both ways) Emancipation, I think, is a social good... and yes, that means we all will spend more time alone, but being alone is dramatically better, in my experience, than being in a bad relationship, even if it's dramatically worse than being in a good relationship. But maintaining a relationship is difficult, and now that most people have the option of saying "I'd rather be alone" many of them do, at least some of the time.