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both "myths of gender" and "delusions of gender" were written by scientists. the fact that you still think of sex as a binary difference between xx and xy show

by door 9y ago

both "myths of gender" and "delusions of gender" were written by scientists. the fact that you still think of sex as a binary difference between xx and xy shows how far outdated your ideas about the science of sex differences are. even "biological sex" (not even gender) is a spectrum influenced by a variety of different factors

SamReidHughes 9y ago
Sex is in fact a binary difference, transgender folk are a tiny proportion of the population.
- door 9y ago
  This is an increasingly outdated view. http://scopeblog.stanford.edu/2015/02/24/sex-biology-redefined-genes-dont-indicate-binary-sexes/ http://scopeblog.stanford.edu/2015/02/24/sex-biology-redefin...
  - SamReidHughes 9y ago
    The page you linked gives the proportion 1/100. Is there something I'm missing?
- Pulcinella 9y ago
  "Truth values are in fact a binary difference, fuzzy logic is a tiny portion of mathematics." "Light switches are in fact a binary difference, dimmer switches are a small portion of all switches." "Life is in fact a binary difference, brain death patients are a tiny portion of all patients."
  - SamReidHughes 9y ago
    In the context of there being measurable differences between the sets of males and females, 99% is binary enough.
    - Pulcinella 9y ago
      "99% server uptime is enough!"
      - LyndsySimon 9y ago
        Indeed - we design systems to operate under the expectation that services are available. We handle their not being available as an exceptional case. This seems analogous; we should design social structures (or allow social structures to emerge) that assume that individuals are male or female, but which handle the exceptional case of non-cisgendered individuals. Just like a software system that doesn't handle exceptions gracefully, a social system that lacks provisions for these is fundamentally flawed and can fail unexpectedly and potentially catastrophically.
        gspetr 9y ago
        Catastrophically how? Society also lacks "provisions" for violent criminals[0] but it still handles them and is yet to fail catastrophically. [0] I'm not equating these two categories of people, merely illustrating that your example of comparing software exceptions to people is deeply flawed.
    - door 9y ago
      ...but that obviously isn't true. by every single metric, there is more variation within genders than between genders: physical fitness, intelligence, personality, interests, etc. gender is a totally artificial, socially constructed way to organize people.
  - tbrownaw 9y ago
    "Truth values are in fact a binary difference, fuzzy logic is a tiny portion of mathematics." Metastable states[0] are a tiny portion of all logic values. They exist and are inherently unavoidable, but somehow massively complicated systems that fundamentally rely on the assumption that values are either 0 or 1 still work. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metastability_in_electronics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metastability_in_electronics

by door 9y ago

SamReidHughes 9y ago

Sex is in fact a binary difference, transgender folk are a tiny proportion of the population.

door 9y ago
This is an increasingly outdated view. http://scopeblog.stanford.edu/2015/02/24/sex-biology-redefined-genes-dont-indicate-binary-sexes/ http://scopeblog.stanford.edu/2015/02/24/sex-biology-redefin...
- SamReidHughes 9y ago
  The page you linked gives the proportion 1/100. Is there something I'm missing?
Pulcinella 9y ago
"Truth values are in fact a binary difference, fuzzy logic is a tiny portion of mathematics." "Light switches are in fact a binary difference, dimmer switches are a small portion of all switches." "Life is in fact a binary difference, brain death patients are a tiny portion of all patients."
- SamReidHughes 9y ago
  In the context of there being measurable differences between the sets of males and females, 99% is binary enough.
  - Pulcinella 9y ago
    "99% server uptime is enough!"
    - LyndsySimon 9y ago
      Indeed - we design systems to operate under the expectation that services are available. We handle their not being available as an exceptional case. This seems analogous; we should design social structures (or allow social structures to emerge) that assume that individuals are male or female, but which handle the exceptional case of non-cisgendered individuals. Just like a software system that doesn't handle exceptions gracefully, a social system that lacks provisions for these is fundamentally flawed and can fail unexpectedly and potentially catastrophically.
      - gspetr 9y ago
        Catastrophically how? Society also lacks "provisions" for violent criminals[0] but it still handles them and is yet to fail catastrophically. [0] I'm not equating these two categories of people, merely illustrating that your example of comparing software exceptions to people is deeply flawed.
  - door 9y ago
    ...but that obviously isn't true. by every single metric, there is more variation within genders than between genders: physical fitness, intelligence, personality, interests, etc. gender is a totally artificial, socially constructed way to organize people.
- tbrownaw 9y ago
  "Truth values are in fact a binary difference, fuzzy logic is a tiny portion of mathematics." Metastable states[0] are a tiny portion of all logic values. They exist and are inherently unavoidable, but somehow massively complicated systems that fundamentally rely on the assumption that values are either 0 or 1 still work. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metastability_in_electronics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metastability_in_electronics