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Are you kidding me? Do you have any proof for this claim or do you think 3 million people illegally voted because Trump's ego tweeted it one day?

sergiotapia 9y ago
"“If you are talking about California, the state is apparently relying on the illegal alien to tell the state they shouldn’t be registered. There is still an honor system,” said von Spakovsky, co-author of the book “Who's Counting? How Fraudsters and Bureaucrats Put Your Vote at Risk.”" "“We have an honor system, which is effective for people who are honorable, but is also an opportunity for people who are not honorable,” Bell said. “There is a gap in the system, and we don’t have administrative folks who will be aggressive about looking into that.”" "One concern, said Jessica Vaughan, director of policy studies for the Washington D.C.-based Center for Immigration Studies, is that California issues driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants, allowing them to automatically be registered to vote under the federal “motor-voter” laws. Since the AB60 law went into effect in 2015, 806,000 illegal immigrants have received a license." "There is no driver’s license required to register to vote, and there are stiff penalties for illegally voting, the spokesman said." "Even John Podesta, former chairman of the 2016 Hillary Clinton presidential campaign, acknowledged in a leaked email that driver’s licenses do provide a loophole." "Claude Arnold, who served as the former Special Agent in Charge for the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Homeland Security Investigations in Southern California, Nevada, Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota and South Dakota, said he has witnessed voter fraud firsthand." “Throughout my 27-year career with [Immigration and Naturalization Service] and ICE, I arrested hundreds of illegal criminal aliens who had voter registration cards,” Arnold said. “They would often admit they voted, but they were rarely prosecuted for illegally voting.” --- So basically, a humongous state like California, has an honor system. Be honest with yourself: On average, would you say people are honorable or try to exploit systems to their advantage?
- aaronbrethorst 9y ago
  Spakovsky is probably the worst person in this country to quote on election fraud. I'm not being hyperbolic. According to Professor Richard L. Hasen, an election-law expert at the University of California at Irvine, "there are number of people who have been active in promoting false and exaggerated claims of voter fraud and using that as a pretext to argue for stricter voting and registration rules. And von Spakovsky’s at the top of the list."[24] Hasen said that Spakovsky's appointment to Donald Trump's Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity was a “a big middle finger” from Trump to people “serious about fixing problems with our elections.”[24] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_von_Spakovsky#Criticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_von_Spakovsky#Criticism Here's more: Finally, there’s Hans von Spakovsky. In the Bush Justice Department, Department veterans wrote that he was the “point person for undermining the Civil Rights Division’s mandate to protect voting rights.” He wanted DOJ to give the thumbs up to several state voter ID measures which critics said had a negative impact on minority voters. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/true-the-vote-signs-breitbart-fund-von-spakovsky-for-voter-fraud-event http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/true-the-vote-signs-b... Former lawyers in the office said Mr. Spakovsky’s decisions seemed to have a partisan flavor unlike those in previous Republican and Democratic administrations. Mr. Spakovsky declined to comment. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html

sergiotapia 9y ago

"“If you are talking about California, the state is apparently relying on the illegal alien to tell the state they shouldn’t be registered. There is still an honor system,” said von Spakovsky, co-author of the book “Who's Counting? How Fraudsters and Bureaucrats Put Your Vote at Risk.”" "“We have an honor system, which is effective for people who are honorable, but is also an opportunity for people who are not honorable,” Bell said. “There is a gap in the system, and we don’t have administrative folks who will be aggressive about looking into that.”" "One concern, said Jessica Vaughan, director of policy studies for the Washington D.C.-based Center for Immigration Studies, is that California issues driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants, allowing them to automatically be registered to vote under the federal “motor-voter” laws. Since the AB60 law went into effect in 2015, 806,000 illegal immigrants have received a license." "There is no driver’s license required to register to vote, and there are stiff penalties for illegally voting, the spokesman said." "Even John Podesta, former chairman of the 2016 Hillary Clinton presidential campaign, acknowledged in a leaked email that driver’s licenses do provide a loophole." "Claude Arnold, who served as the former Special Agent in Charge for the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Homeland Security Investigations in Southern California, Nevada, Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota and South Dakota, said he has witnessed voter fraud firsthand." “Throughout my 27-year career with [Immigration and Naturalization Service] and ICE, I arrested hundreds of illegal criminal aliens who had voter registration cards,” Arnold said. “They would often admit they voted, but they were rarely prosecuted for illegally voting.” --- So basically, a humongous state like California, has an honor system. Be honest with yourself: On average, would you say people are honorable or try to exploit systems to their advantage?

aaronbrethorst 9y ago
Spakovsky is probably the worst person in this country to quote on election fraud. I'm not being hyperbolic. According to Professor Richard L. Hasen, an election-law expert at the University of California at Irvine, "there are number of people who have been active in promoting false and exaggerated claims of voter fraud and using that as a pretext to argue for stricter voting and registration rules. And von Spakovsky’s at the top of the list."[24] Hasen said that Spakovsky's appointment to Donald Trump's Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity was a “a big middle finger” from Trump to people “serious about fixing problems with our elections.”[24] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_von_Spakovsky#Criticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_von_Spakovsky#Criticism Here's more: Finally, there’s Hans von Spakovsky. In the Bush Justice Department, Department veterans wrote that he was the “point person for undermining the Civil Rights Division’s mandate to protect voting rights.” He wanted DOJ to give the thumbs up to several state voter ID measures which critics said had a negative impact on minority voters. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/true-the-vote-signs-breitbart-fund-von-spakovsky-for-voter-fraud-event http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/true-the-vote-signs-b... Former lawyers in the office said Mr. Spakovsky’s decisions seemed to have a partisan flavor unlike those in previous Republican and Democratic administrations. Mr. Spakovsky declined to comment. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html