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Sounds like the Alinsky bit in "Rules for Radicals" about working inside and outside of people's experiences: "....In a similar situation in Los Angeles four s
by brady747 9y ago
Sounds like the Alinsky bit in "Rules for Radicals" about working inside and outside of people's experiences:
"....In a similar situation in Los Angeles four staff members and I were talking
in front of the Biltmore Hotel when I demonstrated the same point, saying:
"Look, I am holding a ten-dollar bill in my hand. I propose to walk around
the Biltmore Hotel, a total of four blocks, and try to give it away. This will
certainly be outside of everyone's experience. You four walk behind me
and watch the faces of the people I'll approach. I am going to go up to
them holding out this ten-dollar bill and say, 'Here, take this.' My guess is
that everyone will back off, look confused, insulted, or fearful, and want to
get away from this nut fast.
From their experience when someone approaches them he is either out to
ask for instructions or to panhandle — particularly the way I'm dressed, no
coat or tie."
I walked around, trying to give the ten-dollar bill away. The reactions were
all "within the experiences of the people." About three of them, seeing the
ten-dollar bill, spoke first — "I'm sorry. I don't have any change." Others
hurried past saying, "I'm sorry, I don't have any money on me right now,"
as though I had been trying to get money from them instead of trying to
give them money. One young woman flared up, almost screaming, "I'm not
that kind of a girl and if you don't get away from here, I'll call a cop!"
Another woman in her thirties snarled, "I don't come that cheap!" There
was one man who stopped and said, "What kind of a con game is this?"...."
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- kowdermeister 9y agoI tried this and got exact same results in Budapest many years ago.
- Vivtek 9y agoI am literally laughing imagining the Hungarian reaction to this. (Wife is Hungarian, and I lived in Bp for a few years.)
- kowdermeister 9y agoWell, get this. The first guy who took it was a well known politician, Deutsch Tamás now responsible for "the internet". You can't make this up.
- zem 9y agogiven that there are a lot of scams that start by giving the mark something in order to create a sense of obligation, it's not an unreasonable response
- Doxin 9y agoThe trick to those is to take the thing and then not feel obligated to do anything whatsoever.
- Majestic121 9y agoThat's good in theory, but in practice the con men will ask for what they gave back and might get violent if you refuse. I'd give up on ten dollars if it means not having to fight/argue this way on the street.
- Doxin 9y agooh obviously don't get into a fight, but I see no problem in being annoying to con men if you can do so safely. It's not like you're gonna get decked straight away if you refuse to give it back. As always use your own judgement.
- falsedan 9y agoSome people have the human social impulse wired too strongly to do that.
- brady747 9y agoAgreed. I don't believe you are implying this, but neither Saul nor I intend to state their reactions are unreasonable. Merely to indicate how divergent reactions can be in different populations and how this can be utilized.
- pdm55 9y agoI lived off handouts for a year while I writing up my research results. Finished it and got a job through a friend. When I got my first paycheck, I went to an ATM and took out a $100. I was so disorientated about actually having some money in the bank that, when I removed my bank card, I left my money behind. I walked about 15 meters before I realised what I had done. I naively returned to the bank and went inside to explain what had happened. (I mean did I really expect the teller to believe me or be able to do anything about it?) There were two young guys at the bank's information desk handing in the money. I said "That's mine", took it and walked away. I wanted to give them a reward, but thought their good deed would have to be its own reward.