My take is that Clojure's community is distinct from that of other Lisp communities. Old school Lispers are the Jacobites of the Computer Age. Their warnings

My take is that Clojure's community is distinct from that of other Lisp communities. Old school Lispers are the Jacobites of the Computer Age. Their warnings were ignored, so their nightmares came true; and the world has changed so much, as a result, that few can even imagine an alternative. They were right about nearly everything, and now they are irrelevant. So pour out a drink for the king over the water and for Genera. Curse this present dark age of bureaucrats and Posix. And then MOVE ON. The Clojurists are the first sizable community of Lispers that has done that.