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Show me a paper proving that what Penrose argues for and what quantum physicists call "objective collapse" are the same thing.
by Chronos 9y ago
Show me a paper proving that what Penrose argues for and what quantum physicists call "objective collapse" are the same thing.
- manyoso 9y agohttps://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF02105068 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF02105068 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10701-013-9770-0 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10701-013-9770-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objective_collapse_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objective_collapse_theory -- See Penrose' as canonical example of objective collapse There is just tons of reading on this if you care to scour the literature. Penrose' objective collapse theory is usually given as the prime example of the whole genre.
- Chronos 9y agoI already read through https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose_interpretation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose_interpretation when I was trying to figure out what nonsense you were spewing. The article does not mention the Church-Turing thesis, hypercomputation, Gödelian incompleteness, or the Lucas-Penrose argument. People can be known for more than one thing. Those two things can be unrelated, even if they're in the same field.
- manyoso 9y agoIn Penrose book that introduced his thoughts on this argument he devotes an entire chapter to his objective collapse theory and quantum gravity. You asked for a paper and I gave you many. You want to know more pick up his book.
- Chronos 9y agoNone of the papers you listed address hypercomputation! They are irrelevant to the Lucas-Penrose argument.