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Save Net Neutrality
- aaaawweeeee 9y agoWe don't have a say in government policy, no matter how much noise we make in their comment section.
- unityByFreedom 9y agoI guess you forgot when Wheeler was pro-fast lanes, and when the government tried to pass SOPA and PIPA. We absolutely have a say. Without our vote, these characters are out of a job. No job means no lobbying money.
- hoodoof 9y agoThat was a different time.
- lettergram 9y agoLol man, I'm so sick of statements like these. How is that adding to the conversation? How was it all that different? I don't want to assume, but I'm fairly certain adding what you think is different will create more discussion.
- iamatworknow 9y agoYou're right. It was 2011 when SOPA/PIPA were being considered. The internet is almost exactly the same as it was then. The biggest internet businesses and ISPs from then are the biggest that exist now. Other stuff related to the internet has happened in the interim (Snowden leaks, for example), but that's not super relevant in this context. The same companies that stand to profit from changes to net neutrality now are the same as in 2011. As dire as the situation in Washington may seem now, democracy hasn't fallen. We as the citizenry haven't lost any power we had back then. If anything, we have more now given the surge in online activism (that also leads to real life activism more readily, at least from my perspective).
- unityByFreedom 9y ago> As dire as the situation in Washington may seem now, democracy hasn't fallen. We as the citizenry haven't lost any power we had back then. If anything, we have more now given the surge in online activism (that also leads to real life activism more readily, at least from my perspective). Ehhh let's not assume the future is alright quite yet. The prez did just fire the guy investigating his campaign's links to a foreign adversary.
- iamatworknow 9y agoI'm not saying there aren't issues now, or that everything will be fine, but as it stands now it's not like we've lost any of our rights as citizens in the past 6 years. We can still protest, vote, conscientiously object to laws, so on. Throwing up our hands and saying, "Welp, the world is different now. Nothing we can do," is exactly the mindset that will lead to the loss of our ability to have an impact on government.
- unityByFreedom 9y agoAgreed. Tough to put into words how I feel about the situation. Ostensibly, no rights lost, but everyone in the WH is doing their darndest to make that happen.
- Raphmedia 9y agoYou know why? Because people are so quiet they can pass whatever they want. By keeping quiet about abuse you simply allow more abuse.
- thrillgore 9y agoEven if we have no say, it is pivotal we make a record that we tried. Regardless of the circumstances.
- jjuel 9y agoIt is this kind of thinking that will get us in trouble. Once you stop fighting they win. Make enough noise and they have to listen. They still don't listen make them hear with your votes. Never stop fighting for what you believe in!
- c8g 9y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14294533 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14294533
- be_erik 9y agoUse http://gofccyourself.com http://gofccyourself.com to quickly leave a public comment regarding net neutrality.
- pvnick 9y agoTangent: Why does so much modern political discourse resort to profane language, either overtly or with puns?
- darkmouth 9y agoTo get attention. Politics is not an exception, its used everywhere.
- ouid 9y agoSame reason that politics is often violent.
- jccc 9y agoI don't disagree with your feeling about this, but just to clarify: The domain gofccyourself.com was set up by John Oliver's show, "Last Week Tonight," and their modus is to use humor to draw attention to tedious but important issues.
- thinkpad20 9y agoa) It was created by a comedian, and it's an amusing name b) It's easy to remember c) Many people are legitimately angry about this kind of thing and using profane language (such as it were) seems warranted
- ahoy 9y agoI'm not sure I even agree with the premise. Politics and "discourse" around it, especially by common people, has always been crass. It's just that those common people have a megaphone now that the internet exists.
- rhino369 9y agoPolitics is mostly entertainment. Either comedy or rage porn.
- pvnick 9y agoFor those who do not want to save Net Neutrality and would rather the FCC stay out of regulating ISPs, here is a website to find details to contact your representative: http://whoismyrepresentative.com/ http://whoismyrepresentative.com/
- thomastjeffery 9y ago> For those who do not want to save Net Neutrality and would rather the FCC stay out of regulating ISPs Do you mind taking a moment to tell the rest of us why? I really want to know.
- dadvocate 9y agoWhy is the new administration against Net Neutrality? What are Ajit Pai's legit arguments to take this stand?
- akmiller 9y agoMoney! He is a former Verizon attorney and despised net neutrality originally. He's bound to get kickbacks in some form or another.
- rhino369 9y agoThe new admin is generally against regulations that restrict business. Net Neutrality is one of these. Whether you think that is legit is up to you. But don't fall into the trap of thinking the other side is disingenuous and evil.
- matt4077 9y agoOh, but they are. Otherwise they wouldn't endanger lives with their health care shutdown while talking so much about pro-life, or threaten to shut down the legal marijuana business in the states that legalised it (which also serves as a convenient example to show how little they actually care about 'states' rights')
- rhino369 9y ago"anyone who disagrees with me is EVIL"
- UnpossibleJim 9y agoBoth sides are pretty evil in their own special, burning snowflake kind of way.
- pvnick 9y agoIf you lack the intellectual capacity to consider the motives of the other side believing that a freer healthcare market is a superior means to save lives (a notion backed by history and economic theory), then you have completely discredited yourself with regards to speaking about political topics.
- Yizahi 9y agoAt first I read url as "Deaf FCC". People can voice their anger but ultimately it will be cable companies who decide this.
- neuralFatigue 9y agohttps://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/search/filings?proceedings_name=17-108&sort=date_disseminated,DESC https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/search/filings?proceedings_name=17-... Bots flooding the FCC comment section with the same text, different addresses. e.g all 'Brittany' posts
- ahoy 9y agoDo we think it's a malfunctioning script (and the first name is supposed to be different each time), or do we think they're all "brittany" on purpose?
- fccdata 9y agoThe top 2 repeated comments of the first 550k submissions are definitely copy pasted. https://www.reddit.com/r/netneutrality/comments/6ach2d/top_repeated_comments_for_the_first_550k_comments/ https://www.reddit.com/r/netneutrality/comments/6ach2d/top_r... * 55957 comments with "The unprecedented regulatory power the Obama Administration imposed on the internet is smothering innovation, damaging the American economy and obstructing job creation. ..." * 13649 comments with: "I was outraged by the Obama/Wheeler FCC's decision to reclassify the Internet as a regulated \"public utility\" under a Depression-era law written for the old Ma Bell telephone monopoly. ..." There are a bunch of repeated pro net neutrality comments, but they tend to be variances of "I support strong net neutrality backed by Title II oversight of ISPs." There are 263512 unique comments, and 14859 comments repeated twice, 4318 comments repeated thrice.
- neuralFatigue 9y agohttps://www.theverge.com/2017/5/10/15610744/anti-net-neutrality-fake-comments-identities https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/10/15610744/anti-net-neutral...
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