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How would you talk about an unfamiliar individual known by a noun you can't say?
by Programmatic 9y ago
How would you talk about an unfamiliar individual known by a noun you can't say?
- throwaway9475 9y agoIndividual who is not I and whom I do not know. :)
- Programmatic 9y agoThat's not hard, but what about a missing third individual that both must understand to carry on?
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- Magnap 9y agoThat/said individual who is not any of us.
- throwaway9475 9y ago"Missing third individual that both must grasp to carry on."
- Programmatic 9y agoBut you still don't instill that actual individual in minds, and an actual, non-abstract, particular individual is occasionally crucial to a thought. Without that word you would basically go back to that activity in which pairs of folks try to find out a thing without using words. This is a bit of an auto-proof as I can't say its word. It's not as if you can simply work around and pick similar words for that individual's particular noun, you miss almost all of a thought by dancing around it vs. using a fast shortcut that quickly aligns thoughts with low odds of ambiguity.
- itazula 9y agoThat guy lon. You know, the spacx guy. Oh yah, why didn't you say so? Musk.
- Programmatic 9y agoI wouldn't say that using a word such as "spacx" is in spirit.
- schoen 9y agoYou could point to Mr. Musk by using his South African origins, but also with circumlocutions such as: Zip2 collaborator X.com collaborator (by and by, part of PayPal, of which a principal and also a primary joint stock-holding guy, and so an original PayPal Mafia "mafioso") Mars colony instigator, for which aim's promotion also principal of orbital propulsion firm with first major victory involving launching an orbital craft propulsion unit again and again Popular luxury voltaic-propulsion motorcar firm kingpin SolarCity capitalist Scary fast monorailish-but-not vacuum transport plan originator and champion Philanthropic patron of folks with a major fascination for AI, apologists for both caution and gusto about it Boring Company instigator with plans to dig subways in L.A. plus additional stuff (that guy has had a hand in astonishingly many things...)
- nebabyte 9y agoBut for fact that said individual was said prior, and that I am slightly in a similar domain to him, I would not know which (singular) particular individual half of that points to
- schoen 9y agoI think "had a hand in PayPal, is making cars that run without gas, and wants to go to Mars" is an apt approach for broad public familiarity.
- gpawl 9y ago
- asdfologist 9y agoNooo... you said undErstand.
- Joeboy 9y agoI find I do this sort of thing a surprising amount. You'd think spurious symbols would jump out at you, but actually it turns out that's not how it is. Luckily oulipo.social automatically stops you posting bad sigils.
- tripofmice 9y agothis kind of broad situation is hard to fix; usually a particular thought has a particular solution. Similarly, using a synonym lookup may hold you back. Look at what you want to say, not what individual words you'd pick without any constraints.
- Programmatic 9y agoBut a mutual thought of a non-abstract individual aids in a lot of situations.
- skdfhksdf 9y agono doubt about it.
- isaacremuant 9y agoThat was funny. I had a bit of a laught. Thanks for that, guys.
- schoen 9y agoMost difficult is accounting for, and introducing into a chat, folks wholly unknown to anybody you talk to. A trick is to try to say how you know of such folks, finding a path or paths along which you can form a link, such as "my dad's mom's son" or "my pal's husband's pal" or "a woman who knows my boss from an old job" or "I know of a particular lady's writings from a class I had at school". This social platform's author own account within said platform shows an additional gimmick or option, viz., translation, insofar as you'd normally hail said author as "[small gray animal with a tail]", but within this platform's constraints as "[said animal, only in Latin]". This is not so hard for participants whom you call with words common to kinds of things, kinds of animals, jobs, and so on, but possibly difficult for folks lacking a commonality of naming of this sort (viz., with "nomina propria"). (Sorry if "viz." is illicit on account of what it actually stands for... you can just think of it as "in particular" if you want.)
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- ClassyJacket 9y agoIt's limiting in a big way. Occasionally, you can say a string of words without that symbol that flows without worry, but an individual word trips you up and brings much difficulty, as any of its obvious synonyms all contain that symbol too.
- nebabyte 9y agoThat's... just a hacky workaround... Imo such would warrant a distinct class of "non-format" strings, just for that noun class; that you might talk about it as-is without violation? Or for purists... commonalization of a particular 'magic' shorthand, such as 'xqx', that is uncommon in that noun class thus can act as a quick shorthand. Though such has additional 'logic' to say initially, it and similar shorthands form a basis for a community 'pidgin' within constraints. Also, I am now full of irk. Continually colliding with taboo words containing (un)said symbol. Ugh. (WHY MUST SO MANY WORDS FINISH WITH TABOO GLYPH?!)
- igravious 9y agoDon't say. Point.
- nebabyte 9y agoNon proximal individual. Now what?
- notgood 9y agoSomeone pulled my chair at the restaurant, how rude -> What a day, I'm just lunching and a random prick pulls my chair, how crazy!
- emmelaich 9y agoAn guy my in-laws know can do this as a party trick. Just talk on and on without using that char.
- nebabyte 9y agoAnd why not? Can trivially construct a toolbox of known-good variants of 'standard' words, and think of synonyms for nonstandard words as you go, to string into minimal-but-functional-communication. Simply a function of your... uh, surplus chronological units.