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How is it a huge decline in quality of life?

• imaginenore 10y ago
  When you stop doing what you like/love, it's a huge decline in quality of life.
  • throwaway243546 10y ago
    This argument only works if you assume that people who go vegan enjoys food less than they did before they went vegan. The reality is that most vegans report enjoying food much more. The reason for that is that they are forced to experiment with different flavors and get more creative, which expands their culinary horizons.
    • henrikschroder 10y ago
      Stockholm Syndrome is also a viable explanation.
      • lolwaaaat 10y ago
        For eating meat, possibly.
    • spdionis 10y ago
      This is a faulty argument. People who join various religious sects say the same exact things. Overlooking whether vegans or religious sects are good, bad or whatever, what really happens is probably that people find other vegan people, become part of a community and enjoy that. It's the same cargo cult process that makes everyone want an Iphone. I dread the day when a high percentage or, god forbid, majority of people start looking down on those dirty meat-eaters because "won't anyone think of the animals?".
• anotheryou 10y ago
  Like changing 80% of all meals to something less desired? "huge" is debatable, but certainly a valid standpoint. In any way: there are pros and cons and everyone should weigh them against each other: health, price, animal cruelty, taste etc. My compromise e.g. is non strict (and hopefully non dogmatic) vegetarian with preferably organic diary products.
• m_fayer 10y ago
  Meat is the easiest form of high quality protein. Not everyone's digestive system is amenable to high quantities of non-meat protein sources or to high-carb diets.
  • marricks 10y ago
    How is it easiest? Perhaps most accessible how society is currently setup, but beans, tofu, etc are all good for you, plenty of vegan body builders rely on them. This "high quality" protein myth is garbage.
    • jordanthoms 10y ago
      Chicken breast and many other meats have a much higher ratio of protein compared to carbs and fat than tofu, beans, etc.
      • marricks 10y ago
        This argument boggles my mind. Are we all body builders? Why do we need to eat like them? There's this protein craze going on that we all need to eat the densest sources of protein cause we all look like Arnold. The amount of protein in seeds, tofu, seitan, nuts, legumes is plenty for almost anyone. And if you are power lifting even omnivore lifters take protein shakes after working out usually.
        • jimmywanger 10y ago
          > Why do we need to eat like them? You're shifting the argument. The point isn't that we need to eat like them, it's that we want to, and meat is delicious. > The amount of protein in seeds, tofu, seitan, nuts, legumes is plenty for almost anyone. By that logic, there'd be no point in manufacturing sports cars or macbook pros anymore, because normal cars and Chromebooks have enough power for "almost anyone".
          • tluyben2 10y ago
• neutronicus 10y ago
  If you work out, figuring out where your protein's gonna come from is a huge pain in the ass (especially if you want to avoid Soy).
  • MisterBastahrd 10y ago
    Not really. Protein is plentiful in the plant world, and soy isn't the only supplemental source.