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I have seen Damian's amazing presentations and I still feel sad for what's happened to Perl since he became a strong influence. I believe he is the one who has
by klein_waffle 16y ago
I have seen Damian's amazing presentations and I still feel sad for what's happened to Perl since he became a strong influence.
I believe he is the one who has most encouraged the tendencies which led to the Perl 6 debacle. His strong charisma has made it acceptable to have the following attitudes in the Perl 6 effort:
- Actual use by mortal programmers is boring; satisfying your desire to be brilliant and clever is what matters
- Complexity and obscurity are fun. Perl is good or popular because the language is complex, therefore the next version of Perl should be even more complex.
Perl 6 really has nothing to do with Perl 5. It's more like those movies that say "a movie by the producers of $THING_THAT_WAS_AWESOME" which neglect to mention the script and the director are different.
- sigzero 16y agoI have thought and continue to think that Perl6 is running the VB.NET route. VB.NET had a cursory relationship to VB but they really are two different languages.
- chromatic 16y agoNone of those attitudes drive the design of Perl 6. Why do you believe they do?
- berntb 16y agoI had decided to not comment any more in this thread because the language trolls got started, but... This is what Conway is claimed to be influencing: >>- Actual use by mortal programmers is boring; satisfying your desire to be brilliant and clever is what matters [etc] Go check who wrote "Perl Best Practices". Better yet, read the book. (And please don't try arguing "REAL influence", or something...)