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On the other hand, there are services that provide captioning at extremely low costs. The university could write a relatively small check to comply. ADA impose

On the other hand, there are services that provide captioning at extremely low costs. The university could write a relatively small check to comply. ADA imposes much more expensive mandates to much smaller businesses, and I'm under the impression that most people consider that to be acceptable.

derefr 10y ago
Is there anything saying that the captions have to be correct? Could they just use e.g. Youtube's (horrible) auto-captioning algorithm?
- thesimon 10y ago
  The letter says "Automatically generated captions were inaccurate and incomplete, making the content inaccessible to individuals with hearing disabilities." So it seems like they need to be quite accurate.
  - miranda_rights 10y ago
    That just seems....inflexible. I definitely see where the reasoning comes from (it's not fair for deaf or similarly disabled people who pay taxes to these public schools to not be able to receive the same benefit as everyone else) but the lack of wiggle room sucks.
TillE 10y ago
Yeah, many other requirements of ADA are for small businesses to actually build things. This would require paying a transcriber for a couple hours per hour of video. That's really not a lot. Probably blame a dumb and inflexible budgetary process.
- Turing_Machine 10y ago
  Doing a good video transcript takes more than 2x the running time of the video. A lot more. Really. Have you ever tried transcribing a video in a level of detail such that someone who can't see the video has a full understanding of what's going on? Give it a shot and report back to us. Source: I've actually transcribed instructional videos for disabled students. Update: Google suggests budgeting 4-9 hours of transcription time per hour, which is closer to my experience. You might get by with 4 hours if it was just someone talking (with no slides, etc.). If the person performing an activity (say, a lab course) 9 is going to be a lot nearer the mark. Remember, this has to be done so that both deaf and blind students can use the material.

derefr 10y ago

Is there anything saying that the captions have to be correct? Could they just use e.g. Youtube's (horrible) auto-captioning algorithm?

thesimon 10y ago
The letter says "Automatically generated captions were inaccurate and incomplete, making the content inaccessible to individuals with hearing disabilities." So it seems like they need to be quite accurate.
- miranda_rights 10y ago
  That just seems....inflexible. I definitely see where the reasoning comes from (it's not fair for deaf or similarly disabled people who pay taxes to these public schools to not be able to receive the same benefit as everyone else) but the lack of wiggle room sucks.

TillE 10y ago

Yeah, many other requirements of ADA are for small businesses to actually build things. This would require paying a transcriber for a couple hours per hour of video. That's really not a lot. Probably blame a dumb and inflexible budgetary process.

Turing_Machine 10y ago
Doing a good video transcript takes more than 2x the running time of the video. A lot more. Really. Have you ever tried transcribing a video in a level of detail such that someone who can't see the video has a full understanding of what's going on? Give it a shot and report back to us. Source: I've actually transcribed instructional videos for disabled students. Update: Google suggests budgeting 4-9 hours of transcription time per hour, which is closer to my experience. You might get by with 4 hours if it was just someone talking (with no slides, etc.). If the person performing an activity (say, a lab course) 9 is going to be a lot nearer the mark. Remember, this has to be done so that both deaf and blind students can use the material.