I like to start with the underlying structure of the data as well, which for database-driven web sites means the schema. "Show me your flowcharts and conceal y

I like to start with the underlying structure of the data as well, which for database-driven web sites means the schema. "Show me your flowcharts and conceal your tables, and I shall continue to be mystified. Show me your tables, and I won't usually need your flowcharts; they'll be obvious." -- Fred Brooks.