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Debatable. Take these sites with grains of salt, but leave with the idea that the results of each in combination taken with salt still skew the results ALOT. P

Debatable. Take these sites with grains of salt, but leave with the idea that the results of each in combination taken with salt still skew the results ALOT. Potentially millions of Illegals voted. (potentially) http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-is-right-millions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/ http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-is-right-... Here's one illegal that voted FIVE times. http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Trial-Begins-in-Alleged-Illegal-Voting-in-Tarrant-County-413091043.html http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Trial-Begins-in-Alleged-Ill... AND the DHS supposedly under Obama administration tried to hack electronic voting polls for six states. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-08/georgia-accuses-homeland-security-attempting-hack-states-election-database http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-08/georgia-accuses-hom... EDIT: I only said supposedly on the third because SIX is the supposed number, but the Georgia one DID happen.

LogicX 10y ago
Thanks for the opportunity to educate myself on your questionable new sources: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-29/unmasking-the-men-behind-zero-hedge-wall-street-s-renegade-blog https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-29/unmasking...
snsr 10y ago
Illegal voting had nothing to do with Trump's unprecedented loss of the popular vote.
- JonFish85 10y ago
  Unprecedented? It happened with George W. Bush not long ago...
  - snsr 10y ago
    Unprecedented in magnitude; Bush lost by a margin of 544,000 votes, Trump received ~3 million fewer votes than Clinton.
    - owebmaster 10y ago
      Isn't losing an election by running it wrong worse than Win running it right? People are pointing Clinton and DNC incompetence as merit. California alone is responsible for this "magnitude", and it only proves how good was Trump' strategy.
- paulddraper 10y ago
  Don't forget that Clinton lost the popular vote too; most voters did not vote for her.
  - grzm 10y ago
    Would you expand on this? By most voters do you mean registered voters? Or that Clinton didn't win a majority? From the popular vote results I've seen, Clinton won a plurality of the votes. Not that the popular vote determines the outcome of the election.
    - paulddraper 10y ago
      I mean that she gained only a plutority. The winner of the US presidential election must be elected by majority vote. Of course, as long as we're hypothesizing the election to be by popular vote, we could make it by plutority too...
      - grzm 10y ago
        From the point of view of how electoral votes are decided (excluding faithless electors), it is determined by plurality, not majority. A state's electoral votes go to the candidate who receives the most votes (a plurality), not the one who receives more than half (a majority).
        paulddraper 10y ago
        It's a majority of electoral college. It's up to each state to choose their electors (plutority of popular vote, as you said being the most common, though not the only method).
blackguardx 10y ago
You can debate an opinion, not a fact.

LogicX 10y ago

Thanks for the opportunity to educate myself on your questionable new sources: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-29/unmasking-the-men-behind-zero-hedge-wall-street-s-renegade-blog https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-29/unmasking...

snsr 10y ago

Illegal voting had nothing to do with Trump's unprecedented loss of the popular vote.

JonFish85 10y ago
Unprecedented? It happened with George W. Bush not long ago...
- snsr 10y ago
  Unprecedented in magnitude; Bush lost by a margin of 544,000 votes, Trump received ~3 million fewer votes than Clinton.
  - owebmaster 10y ago
    Isn't losing an election by running it wrong worse than Win running it right? People are pointing Clinton and DNC incompetence as merit. California alone is responsible for this "magnitude", and it only proves how good was Trump' strategy.
paulddraper 10y ago
Don't forget that Clinton lost the popular vote too; most voters did not vote for her.
- grzm 10y ago
  Would you expand on this? By most voters do you mean registered voters? Or that Clinton didn't win a majority? From the popular vote results I've seen, Clinton won a plurality of the votes. Not that the popular vote determines the outcome of the election.
  - paulddraper 10y ago
    I mean that she gained only a plutority. The winner of the US presidential election must be elected by majority vote. Of course, as long as we're hypothesizing the election to be by popular vote, we could make it by plutority too...
    - grzm 10y ago
      From the point of view of how electoral votes are decided (excluding faithless electors), it is determined by plurality, not majority. A state's electoral votes go to the candidate who receives the most votes (a plurality), not the one who receives more than half (a majority).
      - paulddraper 10y ago
        It's a majority of electoral college. It's up to each state to choose their electors (plutority of popular vote, as you said being the most common, though not the only method).

blackguardx 10y ago

You can debate an opinion, not a fact.