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I went from Salt Lake City to San Francisco as well. I have always been quite liberal on issues and it had never been a problem, but when discussing issues in S

I went from Salt Lake City to San Francisco as well. I have always been quite liberal on issues and it had never been a problem, but when discussing issues in SF I felt I had to be very careful with what I supported. I always felt my friendships/employment was threatened if I disagreed. I had a good friend/startup founder once say anyone who supported Trump deserved to be fired and blacklisted.

dahart 10y ago
Ha! I'm also a Salt Lake native transplant to San Fran. In Utah, I am a socialist pinko commie. In San Francisco I'm (apparently) somewhere between a libertarian and a tea party republican. At least, that's my story. I'm exaggerating for effect, and in the spirit of fun. But I was literally publicly berated at work once on the company forum for not being liberal enough, not having views consistent with California democrats, and not contributing enough money to the party. I never feared for my job though, that's awful. I could have actually been a conservative and I wouldn't have had to worry. There were conservatives in the company, though they did keep rather quiet about their views. Someone who makes a blanket statement about firing anyone with impure thoughts... it happens, but let's hope it was only a moment of weakness or anger on your friend's part.
- nojvek 10y ago
  I believe a large part of America wanted to say "fuck you" to the big system. Trump was the candidate for red states, Sanders for democrats. I do agree with some of trumps policies. I don't agree with his behaviours though. The simplistic tax reform makes sense. A bigger deductible would mean poor people would have middle class would have a larger net gain. I support infrastructure investment. I support stricter high skilled immigration.
jenkstom 10y ago
It's not any different in, say, Oklahoma. Just the reverse.
- dllthomas 10y ago
  Doesn't mean we shouldn't do better, of course. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
Mithaldu 10y ago
By supporting trump (and thus pence and gop) one implicitly agrees with people dying due to cuts in health services. (And yes, pence has already done health-related things whose only consequence were deaths.) Do you feel being fired and blacklisted is a worse consequence than suffered by people impacted by support of trump (and his people)?
- austenallred 10y ago
  So by supporting Clinton would you implicitly be agreeing to bombing children in Syria? That's just a silly line of reasoning
  - Mithaldu 10y ago
    There is no subtlety in Pence's actions on the needle program. PS: Bernie would've been the sane choice for your country. But hey, what can you do in a two party system.
    - flukus 10y ago
      You avoided the question entirely, does your vote for Clinton mean you implicitly agree to bombing children in Syria?
      - Mithaldu 10y ago
        I'm not entirely sure how exactly you get to that exact end result from her. To answer that i'd need to know more. Think you can provide an explanation?
        flukus 10y ago
        OK, let's avoid hypotheticals entirely. I'm going to assume you voted for Obama? If so, does that mean that you implicitly agree to everyone killed (guilty and innocent) by his orders?
TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
When I lived in a bigger city I was constantly commenting on how it always seemed to be the most left leaning people saying things like "someone should shoot that bastard" in reference to some politician or another. It's interesting to note that the word "fired" in an employment context is the same word used to describe what occurs when a gun is operated.
tjalfi 10y ago
Your friend should bear in mind that political affiliation is a protected class in California (http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/california-employment-discrimination-31690.html http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/california-employment...).

dahart 10y ago

Ha! I'm also a Salt Lake native transplant to San Fran. In Utah, I am a socialist pinko commie. In San Francisco I'm (apparently) somewhere between a libertarian and a tea party republican. At least, that's my story. I'm exaggerating for effect, and in the spirit of fun. But I was literally publicly berated at work once on the company forum for not being liberal enough, not having views consistent with California democrats, and not contributing enough money to the party. I never feared for my job though, that's awful. I could have actually been a conservative and I wouldn't have had to worry. There were conservatives in the company, though they did keep rather quiet about their views. Someone who makes a blanket statement about firing anyone with impure thoughts... it happens, but let's hope it was only a moment of weakness or anger on your friend's part.

nojvek 10y ago
I believe a large part of America wanted to say "fuck you" to the big system. Trump was the candidate for red states, Sanders for democrats. I do agree with some of trumps policies. I don't agree with his behaviours though. The simplistic tax reform makes sense. A bigger deductible would mean poor people would have middle class would have a larger net gain. I support infrastructure investment. I support stricter high skilled immigration.

jenkstom 10y ago

It's not any different in, say, Oklahoma. Just the reverse.

dllthomas 10y ago
Doesn't mean we shouldn't do better, of course. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

Mithaldu 10y ago

By supporting trump (and thus pence and gop) one implicitly agrees with people dying due to cuts in health services. (And yes, pence has already done health-related things whose only consequence were deaths.) Do you feel being fired and blacklisted is a worse consequence than suffered by people impacted by support of trump (and his people)?

austenallred 10y ago
So by supporting Clinton would you implicitly be agreeing to bombing children in Syria? That's just a silly line of reasoning
- Mithaldu 10y ago
  There is no subtlety in Pence's actions on the needle program. PS: Bernie would've been the sane choice for your country. But hey, what can you do in a two party system.
  - flukus 10y ago
    You avoided the question entirely, does your vote for Clinton mean you implicitly agree to bombing children in Syria?
    - Mithaldu 10y ago
      I'm not entirely sure how exactly you get to that exact end result from her. To answer that i'd need to know more. Think you can provide an explanation?
      - flukus 10y ago
        OK, let's avoid hypotheticals entirely. I'm going to assume you voted for Obama? If so, does that mean that you implicitly agree to everyone killed (guilty and innocent) by his orders?

TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago

When I lived in a bigger city I was constantly commenting on how it always seemed to be the most left leaning people saying things like "someone should shoot that bastard" in reference to some politician or another. It's interesting to note that the word "fired" in an employment context is the same word used to describe what occurs when a gun is operated.

tjalfi 10y ago

Your friend should bear in mind that political affiliation is a protected class in California (http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/california-employment-discrimination-31690.html http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/california-employment...).