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Why would you need voice search in a TV though... I can't understand ... I don't understand which everyone is going nuts for IOT either!? Why do I want a web br

Why would you need voice search in a TV though... I can't understand ... I don't understand which everyone is going nuts for IOT either!? Why do I want a web browser on my fridge really

mattnumbe 10y ago
To be honest, I really can't wait until my fridge tells me that I'm out of eggs. I hate going to the supermarket and forgetting what's in there.
- uppercasenut 10y ago
  You'll probably turn it off after a few days. Stop reminding me about tomatoes, I don't want to buy them.
- cm2187 10y ago
  What you can do now is do your shopping from your kitchen and get it delivered. So convenient.
- flushandforget 10y ago
  It's an odd problem. My partner insists on keeping a shopping list. But mostly I remember what we have in the fridge and store cupboard, as I frequently cook. I don't actually forget that many items when shopping. Toothpaste I don't keep in the fridge. Being able to have a quick glance remotely could help, but I'd probably then abandon trying to remember, and it would probably take me longer. My partner recently tried a little stretch of buying online and collecting from the store. But for me, it took all the fun out of shopping. I actually enjoy strutting the supermarket - and some domestic tasks. My partner likes certainty. I like mixing things up a little.
- catdog 10y ago
  It probably will just order some overpriced eggs from (and only from) the manufacturers partner store.
lupin_sansei 10y ago
It's handy on the new Apple TV to speak a search phrase rather than select each letter one at a time using the remote. At least on the Apple one though you press to speak into a mic on the remote so presumably it's not listening all the time.
Cyphase 10y ago
Imagine you didn't have to worry about security, privacy, or out-of-date hardware and software. Would you still not see any benefit to having your fridge (or coffee pot, or oven, or ...) connected to the network? You might not; but if you do, then that obviously says there are beneficial reasons to have those things be connected. I think a lot of people who say "What's even the point?" in this context don't really mean that in the end, they just don't think it's worth it given the current security / privacy / obsolescence issues involved with IoT devices. And of course those are all real issues that can absolutely weigh against any benefits. But just imagine if smartphones and tablets today were in the same poor state the IoT ecosystem is currently in. There would be a non-trivial amount (more) people wondering if they were worth the trouble. tl;dr: Potential benefits of IoT, while they certainly have to be weighed against the potential issues that currently exist, are still potential benefits.
- catdog 10y ago
  > Imagine you didn't have to worry about security, privacy, or out-of-date hardware and software. But you have to worry about this and weight cost and benefit, it's just not worth the hassle most of the time, > But just imagine if smartphones and tablets today were in the same poor state the IoT ecosystem is currently in. There would be a non-trivial amount (more) people wondering if they were worth the trouble. I don't need to imagine, security, privacy, or out-of-date hardware and software is a huge problem there, too.
  - Cyphase 10y ago
    > But you have to worry about this and weight cost and benefit, it's just not worth the hassle most of the time, Perhaps you missed that I said, "And of course those are all real issues that can absolutely weigh against any benefits." The point still stands: "tl;dr: Potential benefits of IoT, while they certainly have to be weighed against the potential issues that currently exist, are still potential benefits." > I don't need to imagine, security, privacy, or out-of-date hardware and software is a huge problem there, too. Sure, that certainly crossed my mind, but it's just not as bad at a technical level as IoT is right now, though as far as final impact that has to be weighted by market penetration. I probably could have come up with a better example, but I was dead tired when I wrote that. :)
IanCal 10y ago
I use voice search to find things on youtube. It's far faster than typing on a remote or on-screen keyboard, which have always been terrible.
- Sacho 10y ago
  Wouldn't a wireless keyboard that can send signals to your TV be a cheaper and less error-prone solution?
  - Daviey 10y ago
    A wired keyboard would be even more reliable and cheaper... but less convenient. This is the reason voice is being used, and it is more efficient on Amazon Prime etc.
  - IanCal 10y ago
    Since the remote already has this built in: no, it wouldn't be cheaper. Less error prone? Sure, occasionally, but it's surprisingly rare. So it'd be a more expensive, bulkier option which is certainly more uncomfortable to use.
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hkmurakami 10y ago
IoT to me is the industry's desperate attempt to fabricate a new growth vertical for itself.
- exergy 10y ago
  Yes, thank you for saying that. I understand that different people have different use cases, but there is an environmental cost to owning too much shit that no one talks about. Here's an example. I own a surface pro 3, and a smartphone. The SP3 is a tablet when I want it to be one, and a proper laptop when that's what's required. My brother, by contrast, has a Fitbit smartwatch thing, an iPod for music, a kindle for books, a Nexus tablet (just for flights!), a smartphone and a laptop! And the industry seems to insist that even this is not enough. No, clearly, we must also own wifi connected anal probes, refrigerators that tweet, and coffee machines that need firmware updates before they can give you your morning cup. How do we end this madness?!
kirykl 10y ago
Just wait for IOT to merge with Learning. Then you'll have an internet fridge that thinks for you. Surely product managers, that's what we all want.

Why would you need voice search in a TV though... I can't understand ... I don't understand which everyone is going nuts for IOT either!? Why do I want a web browser on my fridge really

mattnumbe 10y ago

To be honest, I really can't wait until my fridge tells me that I'm out of eggs. I hate going to the supermarket and forgetting what's in there.

uppercasenut 10y ago
You'll probably turn it off after a few days. Stop reminding me about tomatoes, I don't want to buy them.
cm2187 10y ago
What you can do now is do your shopping from your kitchen and get it delivered. So convenient.
flushandforget 10y ago
It's an odd problem. My partner insists on keeping a shopping list. But mostly I remember what we have in the fridge and store cupboard, as I frequently cook. I don't actually forget that many items when shopping. Toothpaste I don't keep in the fridge. Being able to have a quick glance remotely could help, but I'd probably then abandon trying to remember, and it would probably take me longer. My partner recently tried a little stretch of buying online and collecting from the store. But for me, it took all the fun out of shopping. I actually enjoy strutting the supermarket - and some domestic tasks. My partner likes certainty. I like mixing things up a little.
catdog 10y ago
It probably will just order some overpriced eggs from (and only from) the manufacturers partner store.

lupin_sansei 10y ago

It's handy on the new Apple TV to speak a search phrase rather than select each letter one at a time using the remote. At least on the Apple one though you press to speak into a mic on the remote so presumably it's not listening all the time.

Cyphase 10y ago

Imagine you didn't have to worry about security, privacy, or out-of-date hardware and software. Would you still not see any benefit to having your fridge (or coffee pot, or oven, or ...) connected to the network? You might not; but if you do, then that obviously says there are beneficial reasons to have those things be connected. I think a lot of people who say "What's even the point?" in this context don't really mean that in the end, they just don't think it's worth it given the current security / privacy / obsolescence issues involved with IoT devices. And of course those are all real issues that can absolutely weigh against any benefits. But just imagine if smartphones and tablets today were in the same poor state the IoT ecosystem is currently in. There would be a non-trivial amount (more) people wondering if they were worth the trouble. tl;dr: Potential benefits of IoT, while they certainly have to be weighed against the potential issues that currently exist, are still potential benefits.

catdog 10y ago
> Imagine you didn't have to worry about security, privacy, or out-of-date hardware and software. But you have to worry about this and weight cost and benefit, it's just not worth the hassle most of the time, > But just imagine if smartphones and tablets today were in the same poor state the IoT ecosystem is currently in. There would be a non-trivial amount (more) people wondering if they were worth the trouble. I don't need to imagine, security, privacy, or out-of-date hardware and software is a huge problem there, too.
- Cyphase 10y ago
  > But you have to worry about this and weight cost and benefit, it's just not worth the hassle most of the time, Perhaps you missed that I said, "And of course those are all real issues that can absolutely weigh against any benefits." The point still stands: "tl;dr: Potential benefits of IoT, while they certainly have to be weighed against the potential issues that currently exist, are still potential benefits." > I don't need to imagine, security, privacy, or out-of-date hardware and software is a huge problem there, too. Sure, that certainly crossed my mind, but it's just not as bad at a technical level as IoT is right now, though as far as final impact that has to be weighted by market penetration. I probably could have come up with a better example, but I was dead tired when I wrote that. :)

IanCal 10y ago

I use voice search to find things on youtube. It's far faster than typing on a remote or on-screen keyboard, which have always been terrible.

Sacho 10y ago
Wouldn't a wireless keyboard that can send signals to your TV be a cheaper and less error-prone solution?
- Daviey 10y ago
  A wired keyboard would be even more reliable and cheaper... but less convenient. This is the reason voice is being used, and it is more efficient on Amazon Prime etc.
- IanCal 10y ago
  Since the remote already has this built in: no, it wouldn't be cheaper. Less error prone? Sure, occasionally, but it's surprisingly rare. So it'd be a more expensive, bulkier option which is certainly more uncomfortable to use.
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hkmurakami 10y ago

IoT to me is the industry's desperate attempt to fabricate a new growth vertical for itself.

exergy 10y ago
Yes, thank you for saying that. I understand that different people have different use cases, but there is an environmental cost to owning too much shit that no one talks about. Here's an example. I own a surface pro 3, and a smartphone. The SP3 is a tablet when I want it to be one, and a proper laptop when that's what's required. My brother, by contrast, has a Fitbit smartwatch thing, an iPod for music, a kindle for books, a Nexus tablet (just for flights!), a smartphone and a laptop! And the industry seems to insist that even this is not enough. No, clearly, we must also own wifi connected anal probes, refrigerators that tweet, and coffee machines that need firmware updates before they can give you your morning cup. How do we end this madness?!

kirykl 10y ago

Just wait for IOT to merge with Learning. Then you'll have an internet fridge that thinks for you. Surely product managers, that's what we all want.