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You might want to stop imagining things and keep up with the reality. Because the reality is that Russia has basically no military stations around the planet in

by tdkl 10y ago

You might want to stop imagining things and keep up with the reality. Because the reality is that Russia has basically no military stations around the planet in foreign countries and yet is constantly portrayed as aggressor.

alkonaut 10y ago
> and yet is constantly portrayed as aggressor. And Nato is of course "expanding", "cornering" and "surrounding" Russia too. Just like a map makes obvious...?
- seppin 10y ago
  Allowing countries into your military alliance, at their request, is not "aggression". I feel silly even typing this
ptaipale 10y ago
Well, the bases aren't actual aggression, you know. They're generally built based on agreements with host countries. Most often the host countries enthusiastically welcome them. Invading Georgia is aggression. Invading Ukraine is aggression. Sending "little green men" over is. Sending anti-aircraft batteries to shoot down civilian planes over the "Novorossiya" puppet regime's controlled area is.
- googletazer 10y ago
  Yeah I saw that CNN interview where the girl from Ossetia was telling what actually happened and then got cut off for "technical difficulties" :). Georgia got off easy. As for Ukraine - yeah Russia occupied Crimea, but it was either that or risk a crack that could disintegrate it entirely. Israel struck first in the 7 day war as well, and good that they did, because otherwise they wouldnt exist. History is full of such examples.
  - seppin 10y ago
    wow, you know this isn't infowars or zerohedge, right?
  - PerfectDlite 10y ago
    > Russia occupied Crimea, but it was either that or risk a crack that could disintegrate it entirely. Oh, so Russia _saved_ Ukraine, not invaded? I'd yet to see most pretentious whitewashing of Russian war crimes.
seppin 10y ago
> Because the reality is that Russia has basically no military stations around the planet in foreign countries and yet is constantly portrayed as aggressor. Except for the ones they are engaging in full scale war (bombing hospitals and schools) to protect.

by tdkl 10y ago

alkonaut 10y ago

> and yet is constantly portrayed as aggressor. And Nato is of course "expanding", "cornering" and "surrounding" Russia too. Just like a map makes obvious...?

seppin 10y ago
Allowing countries into your military alliance, at their request, is not "aggression". I feel silly even typing this

ptaipale 10y ago

Well, the bases aren't actual aggression, you know. They're generally built based on agreements with host countries. Most often the host countries enthusiastically welcome them. Invading Georgia is aggression. Invading Ukraine is aggression. Sending "little green men" over is. Sending anti-aircraft batteries to shoot down civilian planes over the "Novorossiya" puppet regime's controlled area is.

googletazer 10y ago
Yeah I saw that CNN interview where the girl from Ossetia was telling what actually happened and then got cut off for "technical difficulties" :). Georgia got off easy. As for Ukraine - yeah Russia occupied Crimea, but it was either that or risk a crack that could disintegrate it entirely. Israel struck first in the 7 day war as well, and good that they did, because otherwise they wouldnt exist. History is full of such examples.
- seppin 10y ago
  wow, you know this isn't infowars or zerohedge, right?
- PerfectDlite 10y ago
  > Russia occupied Crimea, but it was either that or risk a crack that could disintegrate it entirely. Oh, so Russia _saved_ Ukraine, not invaded? I'd yet to see most pretentious whitewashing of Russian war crimes.

seppin 10y ago

> Because the reality is that Russia has basically no military stations around the planet in foreign countries and yet is constantly portrayed as aggressor. Except for the ones they are engaging in full scale war (bombing hospitals and schools) to protect.