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It's not ridiculous as long as there are Geographers with masters degrees willing to take those jobs.

jdavis703 10y ago
Actually it is ridiculous. Why were public funds spent on giving someone advanced education to drive around? Is there nothing better society can do with such skills?
- differentView 10y ago
  It absolutely is not ridiculous on Google's part. You're making some other point.
  - Baeocystin 10y ago
    It absolutely is. If the best you can do with someone with an advanced degree is make them drive a car, you're wasting a valuable mind on a menial task.
    - Trundle 10y ago
      If it was a valuable mind then surely the owner of it would opt to do a more valuable activity than drive a car around? Google is just providing an option. Should they be binning applications for the position that include degrees?
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    - matt_wulfeck 10y ago
      How pretentious of you to decide what's best for someone else. Your job shaming just reinforces the notion that everyone must get a higher education degree or GTFO. Maybe people doing the job enjoy it or are doing it part time or find that the resume benefits outweigh the pay? Either way there's nothing inherently wrong with a job that requires you to drive around all day. Work is work regardless of if you look down your nose at it as "menial".
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      - abiox 10y ago
        > Your job shaming just reinforces the notion that everyone must get a higher education degree or GTFO. i think they were simply remarking that someone had an advanced degree and it wasn't being put to use. this point is really about the system/world/situation and not so much about individuals. > there's nothing inherently wrong with a job that requires you to drive around all day seems like a red herring.
      - Baeocystin 10y ago
        Re-read what I said, because you are responding to something that has nothing to do with any of my claim. Restated: If you spend 8+ years and tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars to learn something, not putting it to use is a colossal waste of resources for everyone involved. It's not just you. It's the seat you took from another student who would have appreciated it more.
        manigandham 10y ago
        That's the same thing. It's not up to you to define "waste of resources" based on what someone chose to learn.
        Baeocystin 10y ago
        I have a different perspective. Education is resource-constrained, and learners do not exist in a vacuum. In my opinion, it is the height of ego to refuse to make use knowledge that so many others have spent time and effort to teach.
        manigandham 10y ago
        The education is paid for, so the "others" who are teaching are earning money, it's not wasted effort. Knowledge itself doesn't contain any inherent value, it's free if you want to learn it all yourself without depriving anyone else of it. What you're paying for is the academic environment, resources and tutoring of a person. That's a business exchange like any other and everyone is free to spend their money on that, whether they do anything with the results or not.
    - abiox 10y ago
      > It absolutely is while i agree with your sentiment about not at all utilizing the potential of an advanced education, i'm not sure how google is "at fault" here... assuming this resume requirement is real: is it google's fault there is a sufficient supply of master's holders willing to drive for minimum wage, such that they're content having the requirement?
      - Baeocystin 10y ago
        No. But it very much is their fault for making such an asinine requirement. I have no doubt it actually hurts them, too. Turnover is expensive, and someone who has an advanced degree will bail for better prospects as soon as possible.
        manigandham 10y ago
        Why would they not ask for higher requirements as long as the jobs continue to be filled? You seem to have a problem with the wrong thing.
        Baeocystin 10y ago
        That very attitude (that higher degrees=better at everything) is what I have the problem with. Not only is it demonstrably not true, but it comes with real consequences. An entire generation is being saddled with crippling amounts of debt because of attitudes like this, and we all lose because of it. Our society becomes lopsided, with not enough jobs for college grads to enable most to pay off their student debt, and not enough tradesfolk to fill the ever-widening gap between our needs and who can do the work. Please note that I am not talking about learning in general. Lifelong learning is fundamental. But there are other paths to knowledge beyond a 4-year college.
        abiox 10y ago
        there was a candidate that wanted to address the "crippling amounts of debt" issue, but that movement was cut off at the knees.
  - wtvanhest 10y ago
    While it is off topic, the other point is interesting
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Actually it is ridiculous. Why were public funds spent on giving someone advanced education to drive around? Is there nothing better society can do with such skills?

differentView 10y ago
It absolutely is not ridiculous on Google's part. You're making some other point.
- Baeocystin 10y ago
  It absolutely is. If the best you can do with someone with an advanced degree is make them drive a car, you're wasting a valuable mind on a menial task.
  - Trundle 10y ago
    If it was a valuable mind then surely the owner of it would opt to do a more valuable activity than drive a car around? Google is just providing an option. Should they be binning applications for the position that include degrees?
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  - matt_wulfeck 10y ago
    How pretentious of you to decide what's best for someone else. Your job shaming just reinforces the notion that everyone must get a higher education degree or GTFO. Maybe people doing the job enjoy it or are doing it part time or find that the resume benefits outweigh the pay? Either way there's nothing inherently wrong with a job that requires you to drive around all day. Work is work regardless of if you look down your nose at it as "menial".
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    - abiox 10y ago
      > Your job shaming just reinforces the notion that everyone must get a higher education degree or GTFO. i think they were simply remarking that someone had an advanced degree and it wasn't being put to use. this point is really about the system/world/situation and not so much about individuals. > there's nothing inherently wrong with a job that requires you to drive around all day seems like a red herring.
    - Baeocystin 10y ago
      Re-read what I said, because you are responding to something that has nothing to do with any of my claim. Restated: If you spend 8+ years and tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars to learn something, not putting it to use is a colossal waste of resources for everyone involved. It's not just you. It's the seat you took from another student who would have appreciated it more.
      - manigandham 10y ago
        That's the same thing. It's not up to you to define "waste of resources" based on what someone chose to learn.
        Baeocystin 10y ago
        I have a different perspective. Education is resource-constrained, and learners do not exist in a vacuum. In my opinion, it is the height of ego to refuse to make use knowledge that so many others have spent time and effort to teach.
        manigandham 10y ago
        The education is paid for, so the "others" who are teaching are earning money, it's not wasted effort. Knowledge itself doesn't contain any inherent value, it's free if you want to learn it all yourself without depriving anyone else of it. What you're paying for is the academic environment, resources and tutoring of a person. That's a business exchange like any other and everyone is free to spend their money on that, whether they do anything with the results or not.
  - abiox 10y ago
    > It absolutely is while i agree with your sentiment about not at all utilizing the potential of an advanced education, i'm not sure how google is "at fault" here... assuming this resume requirement is real: is it google's fault there is a sufficient supply of master's holders willing to drive for minimum wage, such that they're content having the requirement?
    - Baeocystin 10y ago
      No. But it very much is their fault for making such an asinine requirement. I have no doubt it actually hurts them, too. Turnover is expensive, and someone who has an advanced degree will bail for better prospects as soon as possible.
      - manigandham 10y ago
        Why would they not ask for higher requirements as long as the jobs continue to be filled? You seem to have a problem with the wrong thing.
        Baeocystin 10y ago
        That very attitude (that higher degrees=better at everything) is what I have the problem with. Not only is it demonstrably not true, but it comes with real consequences. An entire generation is being saddled with crippling amounts of debt because of attitudes like this, and we all lose because of it. Our society becomes lopsided, with not enough jobs for college grads to enable most to pay off their student debt, and not enough tradesfolk to fill the ever-widening gap between our needs and who can do the work. Please note that I am not talking about learning in general. Lifelong learning is fundamental. But there are other paths to knowledge beyond a 4-year college.
        abiox 10y ago
        there was a candidate that wanted to address the "crippling amounts of debt" issue, but that movement was cut off at the knees.
- wtvanhest 10y ago
  While it is off topic, the other point is interesting
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