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I have no idea what a DMT trip is actually like but I liked the depiction in Enter the Void: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCIe9gh84NE https://www.youtube.com

I have no idea what a DMT trip is actually like but I liked the depiction in Enter the Void: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCIe9gh84NE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCIe9gh84NE.

nol13 10y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFCvkkDSfIU&t=8m5s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFCvkkDSfIU&t=8m5s ^My favorite way I've seen it described, and also a really cool video even without the subtext. (but ya this is one rabbit hole that I've yet to travel down. guess i took the blue pill, but more pills just seemed unnecessary at the time)
Alex3917 10y ago
This video is a better depiction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpCqOPFG6V4&list=FLugyqeLh8eaCVUlJaQPhdbw&index=3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpCqOPFG6V4&list=FLugyqeLh8e... That's not to say it's more 'accurate' than the other, but rather I think it more fully captures the impossibility of the experience.
- atom-morgan 10y ago
  Thank you for introducing me to a great channel.
colordrops 10y ago
This scene from Renegade recreating an ayahuasca trip is amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxtkoE-HV-k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxtkoE-HV-k
- Shalhoub 10y ago
  The problem is - some people never come back from their ayahuasca trip. https://youtu.be/uzpey20hQwE https://youtu.be/uzpey20hQwE
byuu 10y ago
Just a fair warning, I've never once seen a depiction of the effects of any kind of psychedelic drug that matched the effects I've personally experienced. And I've tried quite a few of them. A lot of the experience is the head space and body load, which you're just never going to get from way over the top visual approximations. If you haven't experienced those, you aren't going to be able to imagine them very accurately. The actual hallucinations are often much more subtle, but it's the headspace that makes them seem more significant. For instance, the most psilocybin does (for me) is cause text on a screen to wiggle around by a few pixels, and things to kind of zoom in and out by maybe 1% of their actual size, and colors on pictures to kind of bleed around by a few pixels if you stare at it long enough. Now granted, I have not tried dimethyltryptamine. I don't have the courage for that one yet :P
- atom-morgan 10y ago
  > For instance, the most psilocybin does (for me) is cause text on a screen to wiggle around by a few pixels Take more. I've been sitting in my living room literally holding my eyelids open seeing a completely different world. I agree 100% about the visual depictions though. Never gets close.
  - byuu 10y ago
    I've gone as high as I could before the body load became truly threatening. That's around 5-6g of cubensis, or 50mg of 4-AcO-DMT. Psilocin and its analogs tend to cause hypothermia for me that gets worse as dosages increase. Freezing cold yet sweating profusely. Muscles unable to keep still. At that level, it's a struggle for me to stay conscious and not black out. I have to move constantly to avoid that. It ceases to be enjoyable beyond 2-3g or 20-30mg here; low visuals there but amazing euphoria. Though to be honest, the constant nausea ruins regular mushrooms regardless of dosage. I think there's just something off with me and visual hallucinations. I've gone as high as 1.5g on dextromethorphan, and the most I've gotten there was seeing the vague outline of what looked like my room while my eyes were closed, or seeing a grayscale wall that seemed to go up forever. Sometimes with eyes open it seems like in the darkness there's a shadowy silhouette of some other place, but the second I try to focus on it, the illusion breaks. Much more boring than the description sounds. Note that I'm only 150lbs, too. So it's not a mg/kg dosing issue. > I agree 100% about the visual depictions though. Never gets close. It makes me wonder if they're just trying to give a good show for the viewers, like the way they portray computer hackers and such. Or if the people making these depictions have just never in their lives tried psychedelics themselves. Probably the former.
CuriouslyC 10y ago
The thing about hallucinogens is that they really change how you think. The visual changes are such a small part of the experience, compared with the complete transformation of your consciousness. DMT itself is particularly potent in this regard, it basically completely strips away your sense of self. I highly recommend a heavy dose of ayahuasca at least once in your life. It is pretty much guaranteed to radically change your perspective on a lot of things.
- rubicon33 10y ago
  Here's a fun question... If it has a such a profound change in consciousness, would it be easy for a non-DMT user to identify someone who has used DMT, albeit with some training?
  - nyolfen 10y ago
    there's a very simple heuristic to determine whether someone has used dmt, and even those who haven't can use it: they never shut the fuck up about it
    - CuriouslyC 10y ago
      Haha. I have done quite a bit of hallucinogens, but I never bring the subject up myself. My ideas are wild enough, I don't want to give people an easy excuse to dismiss them :)
  - Alex3917 10y ago
    > would it be easy for a non-DMT user to identify someone who has used DMT, albeit with some training? No. There is basically 30% of the population that will believe anything no matter how stupid. Because the percentage of people who have smoked DMT is probably closer to 0.1%, it would be very difficult to separate people who believe dumb-sounding things for good reasons from the people who believe dumb-sounding things for dumb reasons.
  - drvdevd 10y ago
    I'm curious whether or not there's even a test for the presence of this drug or it's metabolites in the blood of a user who has taken it within say even just the past hour, due to its purportedly short lived effects... Not curious enough to consult the literature, but curious.
krylon 10y ago
That movie was very exhausting to watch, but it was well worth it!
anigbrowl 10y ago
Visually it's not dissimilar. But this is kinda like the difference between looking at a postcard and actually going somewhere.

I have no idea what a DMT trip is actually like but I liked the depiction in Enter the Void: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCIe9gh84NE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCIe9gh84NE.

nol13 10y ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFCvkkDSfIU&t=8m5s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFCvkkDSfIU&t=8m5s ^My favorite way I've seen it described, and also a really cool video even without the subtext. (but ya this is one rabbit hole that I've yet to travel down. guess i took the blue pill, but more pills just seemed unnecessary at the time)

Alex3917 10y ago

This video is a better depiction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpCqOPFG6V4&list=FLugyqeLh8eaCVUlJaQPhdbw&index=3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpCqOPFG6V4&list=FLugyqeLh8e... That's not to say it's more 'accurate' than the other, but rather I think it more fully captures the impossibility of the experience.

atom-morgan 10y ago
Thank you for introducing me to a great channel.

colordrops 10y ago

This scene from Renegade recreating an ayahuasca trip is amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxtkoE-HV-k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxtkoE-HV-k

Shalhoub 10y ago
The problem is - some people never come back from their ayahuasca trip. https://youtu.be/uzpey20hQwE https://youtu.be/uzpey20hQwE

byuu 10y ago

Just a fair warning, I've never once seen a depiction of the effects of any kind of psychedelic drug that matched the effects I've personally experienced. And I've tried quite a few of them. A lot of the experience is the head space and body load, which you're just never going to get from way over the top visual approximations. If you haven't experienced those, you aren't going to be able to imagine them very accurately. The actual hallucinations are often much more subtle, but it's the headspace that makes them seem more significant. For instance, the most psilocybin does (for me) is cause text on a screen to wiggle around by a few pixels, and things to kind of zoom in and out by maybe 1% of their actual size, and colors on pictures to kind of bleed around by a few pixels if you stare at it long enough. Now granted, I have not tried dimethyltryptamine. I don't have the courage for that one yet :P

atom-morgan 10y ago
> For instance, the most psilocybin does (for me) is cause text on a screen to wiggle around by a few pixels Take more. I've been sitting in my living room literally holding my eyelids open seeing a completely different world. I agree 100% about the visual depictions though. Never gets close.
- byuu 10y ago
  I've gone as high as I could before the body load became truly threatening. That's around 5-6g of cubensis, or 50mg of 4-AcO-DMT. Psilocin and its analogs tend to cause hypothermia for me that gets worse as dosages increase. Freezing cold yet sweating profusely. Muscles unable to keep still. At that level, it's a struggle for me to stay conscious and not black out. I have to move constantly to avoid that. It ceases to be enjoyable beyond 2-3g or 20-30mg here; low visuals there but amazing euphoria. Though to be honest, the constant nausea ruins regular mushrooms regardless of dosage. I think there's just something off with me and visual hallucinations. I've gone as high as 1.5g on dextromethorphan, and the most I've gotten there was seeing the vague outline of what looked like my room while my eyes were closed, or seeing a grayscale wall that seemed to go up forever. Sometimes with eyes open it seems like in the darkness there's a shadowy silhouette of some other place, but the second I try to focus on it, the illusion breaks. Much more boring than the description sounds. Note that I'm only 150lbs, too. So it's not a mg/kg dosing issue. > I agree 100% about the visual depictions though. Never gets close. It makes me wonder if they're just trying to give a good show for the viewers, like the way they portray computer hackers and such. Or if the people making these depictions have just never in their lives tried psychedelics themselves. Probably the former.

CuriouslyC 10y ago

The thing about hallucinogens is that they really change how you think. The visual changes are such a small part of the experience, compared with the complete transformation of your consciousness. DMT itself is particularly potent in this regard, it basically completely strips away your sense of self. I highly recommend a heavy dose of ayahuasca at least once in your life. It is pretty much guaranteed to radically change your perspective on a lot of things.

rubicon33 10y ago
Here's a fun question... If it has a such a profound change in consciousness, would it be easy for a non-DMT user to identify someone who has used DMT, albeit with some training?
- nyolfen 10y ago
  there's a very simple heuristic to determine whether someone has used dmt, and even those who haven't can use it: they never shut the fuck up about it
  - CuriouslyC 10y ago
    Haha. I have done quite a bit of hallucinogens, but I never bring the subject up myself. My ideas are wild enough, I don't want to give people an easy excuse to dismiss them :)
- Alex3917 10y ago
  > would it be easy for a non-DMT user to identify someone who has used DMT, albeit with some training? No. There is basically 30% of the population that will believe anything no matter how stupid. Because the percentage of people who have smoked DMT is probably closer to 0.1%, it would be very difficult to separate people who believe dumb-sounding things for good reasons from the people who believe dumb-sounding things for dumb reasons.
- drvdevd 10y ago
  I'm curious whether or not there's even a test for the presence of this drug or it's metabolites in the blood of a user who has taken it within say even just the past hour, due to its purportedly short lived effects... Not curious enough to consult the literature, but curious.

krylon 10y ago

That movie was very exhausting to watch, but it was well worth it!

anigbrowl 10y ago

Visually it's not dissimilar. But this is kinda like the difference between looking at a postcard and actually going somewhere.