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What about quality of life for "single" people? IN terms of activities etc. It is a huge factor for young people.

brilliantcode 10y ago
Yeah, this is actually an overlooked variable which is significant. Millenials are't getting married and having kids like previous generation. Lot of professionals living by themselves. I thought hard about how to fix this social isolation plague that is especially bad in city core. Especially for people who are on the autism spectrum disorder, ptsd, add and severe social anxiety. I don't see any solution. This is the outcome of our free market capitalism experiment. It explains why communal and group orientated cultures suffer under the weight of isolation and work stress. South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, China all suffer from high rate of suicides probably in that order. I often wonder if this capitalist system that structurally oppresses a large chunk of the population with our things, wants, race to obtain scarce goods, was purposefully installed to keep people in-line. Take a look around next time you are packed into a tiny Skytrain box. Everyone is a slave to this tiny screen in their hands. A lot of those people probably live by themselves and not talk to anyone at work or outside. They wear fancy clothes or cars or new condo but these are ephemeral they add diminishing returns to the quality of our life which is tied to human connections. We've replaced humane aspects of our society with things and I feel like none of the cities they listed in that article really is a good fit for "human quality of life"
- civilian 10y ago
  Join a board game group, join a martial arts class. You can create your own community. If you feel that your disabilities hold you back from that, then try to find a similar group of people in an even more relaxed and safe setting. No one is going to give you the life you want. You have to make it for yourself. Trust me, I wish it was easy too, but my life has improved a lot since I've started taking an active role.
- burger_moon 10y ago
  You look at it as a problem and think we're broken, but I quite enjoy being alone. I cannot imagine I'm alone in that opinion either. I guess I just don't see the problem with wanted to live alone and have personal hobbies that don't require group involvement.
  - ionised 10y ago
    I enjoy solitude too, in fact I require it in large, prolonged time periods or I go crazy. Socialising is something I like to keep to short, controlled doses. Many people (I'd wager most) are not this way though. Loneliness and solitude are two different things. We are not broken when we are alone for long periods, but most others are.
bonniemuffin 10y ago
Cram into a shoebox apartment in SF with a bunch of roommates and live it up! Young single people can get more creative than couples/families with finding housing, which makes the bay area more appealing as an option.
- sotojuan 10y ago
  Meh, I'll never understand how people can do this outside of financial need. As soon as I graduated college I got my own apartment (in NYC). Definitely worth the money.
  - bonniemuffin 10y ago
    I guess it depends what sort of person you are. I always enjoyed having roommates, and would never want to live alone. I'm in my mid-30s and if I wasn't married I'd probably still live with roommates.
    - rak00n 10y ago
      Imagine yourself stuck in the an apartment with a lease with 3 people you hate most. That's the worst case scenario.
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TillE 10y ago
Most "real" cities, lively cities, are pretty great for that. From the list at the bottom, I'd pick out Berlin, New York, and London.
- fennecfoxen 10y ago
  Living in London right now, I think I prefer New York and will move back there for my next job. London's maybe a little more balanced and cleaner and nicer but there's a sort of "sleepwalking" feel to the place which extends even beyond the weather. And they aren't getting any less insular with the likes of Brexit, and my salary in international terms (e.g. plane tickets) has plummeted... That said, I have enjoyed my time here and I don't regret it. Also, you know how they say European public transport is so good? Hahahahaha - Southern is about as bad as Amtrak :b
  - ghaff 10y ago
    The pace of New York City is pretty much unique, at least in the West. (Somewhere like Hong Kong is different enough that I wouldn't try to compare.) London certainly feels like a slower pace, which can be good or bad depending upon your perspective.

Yeah, this is actually an overlooked variable which is significant. Millenials are't getting married and having kids like previous generation. Lot of professionals living by themselves. I thought hard about how to fix this social isolation plague that is especially bad in city core. Especially for people who are on the autism spectrum disorder, ptsd, add and severe social anxiety. I don't see any solution. This is the outcome of our free market capitalism experiment. It explains why communal and group orientated cultures suffer under the weight of isolation and work stress. South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, China all suffer from high rate of suicides probably in that order. I often wonder if this capitalist system that structurally oppresses a large chunk of the population with our things, wants, race to obtain scarce goods, was purposefully installed to keep people in-line. Take a look around next time you are packed into a tiny Skytrain box. Everyone is a slave to this tiny screen in their hands. A lot of those people probably live by themselves and not talk to anyone at work or outside. They wear fancy clothes or cars or new condo but these are ephemeral they add diminishing returns to the quality of our life which is tied to human connections. We've replaced humane aspects of our society with things and I feel like none of the cities they listed in that article really is a good fit for "human quality of life"

civilian 10y ago
Join a board game group, join a martial arts class. You can create your own community. If you feel that your disabilities hold you back from that, then try to find a similar group of people in an even more relaxed and safe setting. No one is going to give you the life you want. You have to make it for yourself. Trust me, I wish it was easy too, but my life has improved a lot since I've started taking an active role.
burger_moon 10y ago
You look at it as a problem and think we're broken, but I quite enjoy being alone. I cannot imagine I'm alone in that opinion either. I guess I just don't see the problem with wanted to live alone and have personal hobbies that don't require group involvement.
- ionised 10y ago
  I enjoy solitude too, in fact I require it in large, prolonged time periods or I go crazy. Socialising is something I like to keep to short, controlled doses. Many people (I'd wager most) are not this way though. Loneliness and solitude are two different things. We are not broken when we are alone for long periods, but most others are.

bonniemuffin 10y ago

Cram into a shoebox apartment in SF with a bunch of roommates and live it up! Young single people can get more creative than couples/families with finding housing, which makes the bay area more appealing as an option.

sotojuan 10y ago
Meh, I'll never understand how people can do this outside of financial need. As soon as I graduated college I got my own apartment (in NYC). Definitely worth the money.
- bonniemuffin 10y ago
  I guess it depends what sort of person you are. I always enjoyed having roommates, and would never want to live alone. I'm in my mid-30s and if I wasn't married I'd probably still live with roommates.
  - rak00n 10y ago
    Imagine yourself stuck in the an apartment with a lease with 3 people you hate most. That's the worst case scenario.
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TillE 10y ago

Most "real" cities, lively cities, are pretty great for that. From the list at the bottom, I'd pick out Berlin, New York, and London.

fennecfoxen 10y ago
Living in London right now, I think I prefer New York and will move back there for my next job. London's maybe a little more balanced and cleaner and nicer but there's a sort of "sleepwalking" feel to the place which extends even beyond the weather. And they aren't getting any less insular with the likes of Brexit, and my salary in international terms (e.g. plane tickets) has plummeted... That said, I have enjoyed my time here and I don't regret it. Also, you know how they say European public transport is so good? Hahahahaha - Southern is about as bad as Amtrak :b
- ghaff 10y ago
  The pace of New York City is pretty much unique, at least in the West. (Somewhere like Hong Kong is different enough that I wouldn't try to compare.) London certainly feels like a slower pace, which can be good or bad depending upon your perspective.