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Thanks for this! I've been on multiple H1B visas, at both large companies and startups. I've also sponsored H1B visas as an employer. I would support this bill

Thanks for this! I've been on multiple H1B visas, at both large companies and startups. I've also sponsored H1B visas as an employer. I would support this bill. The headline is a classic example of sensational journalism by the Times of India. The $130k salary requirement applies only to "dependent employers", defined as employers with over 15% of their workforce on H1Bs. This is clearly aimed at reducing H1B misuse by TCS, Infosys, and their ilk. The vast majority of companies who employ people on H1Bs aren't "dependent" employers by this definition, and hence will be unaffected by the salary increase rule. If anything, they'll benefit from more visas being available to non-dependent employers. Also, startups will likely benefit from the 20% requirement.

deeth_starr 10y ago
And Samsung US. They pay H1B's absolute crap. This would be a good thing for them.
- serge2k 10y ago
  http://www.h1bdata.info/index.php?em=samsung&job=&city=&year=All+Years http://www.h1bdata.info/index.php?em=samsung&job=&city=&year... Just a glance, doesn't seem that bad.
  - deeth_starr 10y ago
    You're including Austin, TX (Semiconductor) in that search. Their CA engineer salaries are much lower. Also, I wonder about that data. I've seen bigger CA databases that have more records and lower salaries. Also, look at what AirBNB pays their H1B's. http://www.h1bdata.info/index.php?em=SAMSUNG+RESEARCH+AMERICA+INC&job=ENGINEER&city=&year=ALL+YEARS http://www.h1bdata.info/index.php?em=SAMSUNG+RESEARCH+AMERIC... Edit: Sorry, going to retract this. My data is a few years old. It seems like they have started paying market rates. http://h1bpay.com/salaries?company=samsung+&city=mountain+view&job-title= http://h1bpay.com/salaries?company=samsung+&city=mountain+vi...
electrichead 10y ago
Although a startup might only marginally benefit because a single one would be a significant portion of their employees, right? So it would be over 15% right off the bat if they have fewer than 7 people
- filoleg 10y ago
  I think this 15% rule applies only to companies with more than 50 employees
MR4D 10y ago
As you said, this seems to penalize the Infosys-type companies, and seems to give favorable treatment to Silicon Valley firms. Given that's her district, this should not be surprising. Regardless of the merits of this particular bill, at least we now have a conversation going with both political sides weighing in. Here's hoping that they end up somewhere rational.
hn_news 10y ago
this makes perfect sense. thank you! these sensationalist article titles are very misleading!!!!
neeleshs 10y ago
There are enough unscrupulous actors that will pay 130k on paper and have ways of paying much less in reality. Enforcement and audits will also have to increase correspondingly, and penalties must be severe.
- manicdee 10y ago
  In Australia, 7-11 was paying staff minimum wage then demanding half of it back in cash. Literally mugging their own staff.
  - flukus 10y ago
    A lot of fly in fly out workers too. They make good salaries but have to spend a massive chunk of it "renting" accommodation off their employer.
    - angry_octet 10y ago
      Since when? Those are (were) real $250k salaries. Accom (a donga) and flights are included. Living in Perth is pretty expensive though, and in fact many live in Bali.
klipt 10y ago
Note that this bill is completely separate from Trump's possible upcoming executive order which may also affect H1B: https://www.murthy.com/2017/01/31/possible-executive-order-targeting-employment-based-immigration/ https://www.murthy.com/2017/01/31/possible-executive-order-t...
hazerv 10y ago
EOD, this is just a bill, such bills have been introduced in the past but never saw the light of day, its just that, this time around, this is being introduced under Trump. All in all, there are some benefits in this bill. Does it say anything about green card backlog? or was my interpretation wrong?

deeth_starr 10y ago

And Samsung US. They pay H1B's absolute crap. This would be a good thing for them.

serge2k 10y ago
http://www.h1bdata.info/index.php?em=samsung&job=&city=&year=All+Years http://www.h1bdata.info/index.php?em=samsung&job=&city=&year... Just a glance, doesn't seem that bad.
- deeth_starr 10y ago
  You're including Austin, TX (Semiconductor) in that search. Their CA engineer salaries are much lower. Also, I wonder about that data. I've seen bigger CA databases that have more records and lower salaries. Also, look at what AirBNB pays their H1B's. http://www.h1bdata.info/index.php?em=SAMSUNG+RESEARCH+AMERICA+INC&job=ENGINEER&city=&year=ALL+YEARS http://www.h1bdata.info/index.php?em=SAMSUNG+RESEARCH+AMERIC... Edit: Sorry, going to retract this. My data is a few years old. It seems like they have started paying market rates. http://h1bpay.com/salaries?company=samsung+&city=mountain+view&job-title= http://h1bpay.com/salaries?company=samsung+&city=mountain+vi...

electrichead 10y ago

Although a startup might only marginally benefit because a single one would be a significant portion of their employees, right? So it would be over 15% right off the bat if they have fewer than 7 people

filoleg 10y ago
I think this 15% rule applies only to companies with more than 50 employees

MR4D 10y ago

As you said, this seems to penalize the Infosys-type companies, and seems to give favorable treatment to Silicon Valley firms. Given that's her district, this should not be surprising. Regardless of the merits of this particular bill, at least we now have a conversation going with both political sides weighing in. Here's hoping that they end up somewhere rational.

hn_news 10y ago

this makes perfect sense. thank you! these sensationalist article titles are very misleading!!!!

neeleshs 10y ago

There are enough unscrupulous actors that will pay 130k on paper and have ways of paying much less in reality. Enforcement and audits will also have to increase correspondingly, and penalties must be severe.

manicdee 10y ago
In Australia, 7-11 was paying staff minimum wage then demanding half of it back in cash. Literally mugging their own staff.
- flukus 10y ago
  A lot of fly in fly out workers too. They make good salaries but have to spend a massive chunk of it "renting" accommodation off their employer.
  - angry_octet 10y ago
    Since when? Those are (were) real $250k salaries. Accom (a donga) and flights are included. Living in Perth is pretty expensive though, and in fact many live in Bali.

klipt 10y ago

Note that this bill is completely separate from Trump's possible upcoming executive order which may also affect H1B: https://www.murthy.com/2017/01/31/possible-executive-order-targeting-employment-based-immigration/ https://www.murthy.com/2017/01/31/possible-executive-order-t...

hazerv 10y ago

EOD, this is just a bill, such bills have been introduced in the past but never saw the light of day, its just that, this time around, this is being introduced under Trump. All in all, there are some benefits in this bill. Does it say anything about green card backlog? or was my interpretation wrong?