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I appreciate the question! Have you ever worked on job applications where you had to spend 45 - 60 mins just to complete the essays and cover letter trying you

by ahuja_s 10y ago

I appreciate the question! Have you ever worked on job applications where you had to spend 45 - 60 mins just to complete the essays and cover letter trying your best to match your skills to what you think is needed? If you are talking to a chatbot while applying for the job it would take no more than 15 - 20 mins answering targeted questions about your background. No essays, just specific questions about projects that the chatbot found on your resume uploaded. 1. That saves the candidate's time she doesn't have to guess what info is required 2. If the employer is okay with it, the chatbot has the ability to give feedback as to why the candidate is not suitable at this time...saying something like we are looking for candidates with more experience in recommendation systems etc. The chatbot doesn't do well as an interview tool in all contexts. (the contexts you and I have in mind may be different) It would be horrible to assess very experienced people with it. But it is a great tool to shortlist the people you want to interview in person and really spend time with before making the hiring decision. It's great for when 100s of candidates apply for the same job. It's also really good for blue collar positions. In Asia we have startups using our chatbot because they are growing really fast and their existing team can't handle the pace at which they are receiving applications. On the subject matter question, we are building ontologies for the chatbot to understand certain kinds of jobs and skills associated with them.

dozzie 10y ago
> Have you ever worked on job applications where you had to spend 45 - 60 mins just to complete the essays and cover letter trying your best to match your skills to what you think is needed? Not really. I maintain a list of my completed projects and work history, and I simply choose what is relevant and important for the job I apply from that list, so adjusting a curriculum vitae takes little time. As for cover letters, I've only seen them in requirements in unskilled job ads, and this was long ago. > If you are talking to a chatbot while applying for the job it would take no more than 15 - 20 mins answering targeted questions about your background. No essays, just specific questions about projects that the chatbot found on your resume uploaded. Chatbot won't understand what I'm talking about (general AI is still a pipe dream), so I doubt it would ask targeted questions. And it would be very tiring for me to explain to a brick wall (i.e. software, unless your chatbot passes the Turing test) why I am proud of this or that project. > It's great for when 100s of candidates apply for the same job. First find me a programming vacancy that has plenty of candidates. > In Asia we have startups using our chatbot [...] OK, I take my previous remark back. I obviously was projecting the situation in Europe and US to the whole world. China or India have different setting, from what I can infer.
- ahuja_s 10y ago
  > Not really. I maintain a list of my completed projects and work history, and I simply choose what is relevant and important for the job I apply from that list, so adjusting a curriculum vitae takes little time. As for cover letters, I've only seen them in requirements in unskilled job ads, and this was long ago. This is actually great. A lot of less experienced candidates could learn from this. > Chatbot won't understand what I'm talking about (general AI is still a pipe dream), so I doubt it would ask targeted questions. And it would be very tiring for me to explain to a brick wall (i.e. software, unless your chatbot passes the Turing test) why I am proud of this or that project. Agree about the pipedream. We don't have that dream ourselves. We just aim to make our chatbot smart enough to ask good questions and collect good information for a human reviewer. Does that make sense? > OK, I take my previous remark back. I obviously was projecting the situation in Europe and US to the whole world. China or India have different setting, from what I can infer. Thanks, I did realize we were coming from different contexts. I am just here to learn! :)

by ahuja_s 10y ago

dozzie 10y ago

> Have you ever worked on job applications where you had to spend 45 - 60 mins just to complete the essays and cover letter trying your best to match your skills to what you think is needed? Not really. I maintain a list of my completed projects and work history, and I simply choose what is relevant and important for the job I apply from that list, so adjusting a curriculum vitae takes little time. As for cover letters, I've only seen them in requirements in unskilled job ads, and this was long ago. > If you are talking to a chatbot while applying for the job it would take no more than 15 - 20 mins answering targeted questions about your background. No essays, just specific questions about projects that the chatbot found on your resume uploaded. Chatbot won't understand what I'm talking about (general AI is still a pipe dream), so I doubt it would ask targeted questions. And it would be very tiring for me to explain to a brick wall (i.e. software, unless your chatbot passes the Turing test) why I am proud of this or that project. > It's great for when 100s of candidates apply for the same job. First find me a programming vacancy that has plenty of candidates. > In Asia we have startups using our chatbot [...] OK, I take my previous remark back. I obviously was projecting the situation in Europe and US to the whole world. China or India have different setting, from what I can infer.

ahuja_s 10y ago
> Not really. I maintain a list of my completed projects and work history, and I simply choose what is relevant and important for the job I apply from that list, so adjusting a curriculum vitae takes little time. As for cover letters, I've only seen them in requirements in unskilled job ads, and this was long ago. This is actually great. A lot of less experienced candidates could learn from this. > Chatbot won't understand what I'm talking about (general AI is still a pipe dream), so I doubt it would ask targeted questions. And it would be very tiring for me to explain to a brick wall (i.e. software, unless your chatbot passes the Turing test) why I am proud of this or that project. Agree about the pipedream. We don't have that dream ourselves. We just aim to make our chatbot smart enough to ask good questions and collect good information for a human reviewer. Does that make sense? > OK, I take my previous remark back. I obviously was projecting the situation in Europe and US to the whole world. China or India have different setting, from what I can infer. Thanks, I did realize we were coming from different contexts. I am just here to learn! :)