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That's an integral part of how it works. Their sync servers download your email, then sync with your local client. You need that ID to log into their server and

by shreve 10y ago

That's an integral part of how it works. Their sync servers download your email, then sync with your local client. You need that ID to log into their server and access your individual email accounts.

OJFord 10y ago
Not any more, per the post, the performance boost comes from using Gmail's, Exchange's, et al. APIs directly rather than remote IMAP sync + provide REST API for the client. Cloud now used for "much much much much less" [0] - just tracking and stuff. Sync-engine also (?) runs locally now, I'm not totally clear on how this works but there's apparently some currently closed source stuff to become open 'soon', so it should become clearer exactly what's going on. There's also apparently some details to follow on their engineering blog [1]. [0] - https://github.com/nylas/N1/issues/3166 https://github.com/nylas/N1/issues/3166 [1] - https://nylas.com/blog https://nylas.com/blog
karim 10y ago
Hey – I'm an engineer at Nylas. This used to be true but Nylas Mail now uses a totally client-side sync engine. If you're on the Basic edition, your emails never touch our servers. This was a huge undertaking (it's not easy to port a sync-engine written in Python and designed to run on servers to run efficiently on desktop machines) and is the major reason why we can now offer a freemium service. We're going to put out a blog post soon with more engineering details soon!
- OJFord 10y ago
  > We're going to put out a blog post soon with more engineering details soon! Looking forward to it! I think for this audience, this blog post raises more questions than it answers. I'm a student, I can't justify $12pm (or $7pm) for an email client however good it is - but I'll gladly use the Basic version and continue contributing; pay a little back that way :)
- ryanolsonx 10y ago
  Based on what you say here, why not have the user create a Nylas Mail account for advanced features once they decide to upgrade? That would make it so that users (that only use the Basic version) can have a privacy-safe email client, if it doesn't even talk to your servers in the first place.
- philfreo 10y ago
  That's awesome to hear. However I see Nylas still is requesting full "view and manage your mail" OAuth permissions server-side. Is that something that can go away? https://www.dropbox.com/s/s37onyv41w91zi0/Screenshot%202017-01-17%2016.04.06.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/s37onyv41w91zi0/Screenshot%202017-...

by shreve 10y ago

That's an integral part of how it works. Their sync servers download your email, then sync with your local client. You need that ID to log into their server and access your individual email accounts.

OJFord 10y ago

Not any more, per the post, the performance boost comes from using Gmail's, Exchange's, et al. APIs directly rather than remote IMAP sync + provide REST API for the client. Cloud now used for "much much much much less" [0] - just tracking and stuff. Sync-engine also (?) runs locally now, I'm not totally clear on how this works but there's apparently some currently closed source stuff to become open 'soon', so it should become clearer exactly what's going on. There's also apparently some details to follow on their engineering blog [1]. [0] - https://github.com/nylas/N1/issues/3166 https://github.com/nylas/N1/issues/3166 [1] - https://nylas.com/blog https://nylas.com/blog

karim 10y ago

Hey – I'm an engineer at Nylas. This used to be true but Nylas Mail now uses a totally client-side sync engine. If you're on the Basic edition, your emails never touch our servers. This was a huge undertaking (it's not easy to port a sync-engine written in Python and designed to run on servers to run efficiently on desktop machines) and is the major reason why we can now offer a freemium service. We're going to put out a blog post soon with more engineering details soon!

OJFord 10y ago
> We're going to put out a blog post soon with more engineering details soon! Looking forward to it! I think for this audience, this blog post raises more questions than it answers. I'm a student, I can't justify $12pm (or $7pm) for an email client however good it is - but I'll gladly use the Basic version and continue contributing; pay a little back that way :)
ryanolsonx 10y ago
Based on what you say here, why not have the user create a Nylas Mail account for advanced features once they decide to upgrade? That would make it so that users (that only use the Basic version) can have a privacy-safe email client, if it doesn't even talk to your servers in the first place.
philfreo 10y ago
That's awesome to hear. However I see Nylas still is requesting full "view and manage your mail" OAuth permissions server-side. Is that something that can go away? https://www.dropbox.com/s/s37onyv41w91zi0/Screenshot%202017-01-17%2016.04.06.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/s37onyv41w91zi0/Screenshot%202017-...