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That was just answering a common bad argument in advance. I wrote it INSIDE "()", AS AN EDIT. since that was the only thing you could comment on, sad... EDIT:

by berntb 10y ago

That was just answering a common bad argument in advance. I wrote it INSIDE "()", AS AN EDIT. since that was the only thing you could comment on, sad... EDIT: I used a ":-)" three comments ago as a mark of irony. Well, justin66 have no serious answer, so I end it here. Edit 2: Justin66 seems to downvote my comments in this old discussion now, with multiple accounts... 15+ downvotes on old and new comments in 20 minutes. That is what happens when people lack both a serious argument and maturity. (Easy to find for HN mods..) Edit 3: detaro -- The karma is irrelevant. And I should be equally ashamed as justin66 for needling whai I hope is a teenager when he have dearly held wrong opinions. Enough.

justin66 10y ago
Now that I know that not all of what you've written is meant to be taken seriously, I really have no idea what point you're trying to get across, aside from some vague pro-Israel, anti-Palestine thing. My mistake for responding to a message ending in ":-)" in the first place.
- berntb 10y ago
  Since you lack serious arguments -- the closest are that I had a ":-)" three comments ago and personal attacks -- we can close this. (And of course it is just a coincidence that I get 7++ downvotes on old comments and 5+ downvotes on new comments just a few minutes after you get angry because you totally lack answers. :-) ) Edit: DanBC do have a point, I have a history of easily being trolled when people without arguments start discussin person instead etc. I will think about that in the future.
  - DanBC 10y ago
    >And of course it is just a coincidence You're getting downvotes, and flags, because you are being rude and aggressive.
    - berntb 10y ago
      I'll add a comment here so DanBC sees it. You have a point, I am easily trolled when people lack arguments and start discussing person. Regarding earlier comments... I got mainly upvotes, until an hour ago. I have argued, a year or two ago, that this subject have to much emotional attachments and doesn't work on HN. It is twice as true today, it seems people now often have secondary accounts used for trolling when they lack answers about soemthing they find important.
      - grzm 10y ago
        I don't think what you're seeing is the action of secondary accounts. The tone of a number of your comments has been rude and aggressive, and the accusations of other users is also uncivil. You've been called out by a mod, and at least two other members have commented on your behavior. I've downvoted and flagged a number of your comments as well. You may be right about the topic not being appropriate for HN. Regardless of the behavior of other members—even if you think they're trolling—it's important to be civil. Even more so when the topic is emotional. Otherwise it's just better to refrain from commenting.
        berntb 10y ago
        OK, thanks. I understand that I over reacted. I have found that I am easily trolled when I have the beginning of allergy troubles. It is better to not comment than to find out the hard way I need anti histamines. Sorry for wasting people's time and energy.
        berntb 10y ago
        OK, after thinking about this. I have problems with non serious debaters that argue dishonestly. This is a subject where people write dishonest propaganda and where I have read a bit. I can handle a few dishonest debaters, see previous comments, but there were too many here. I guess the hateful people won. :-) (I don't really have any interest in the subject matter, for a few I years I followed my native media with NYT/BBC/Washington Post.)
justin66 10y ago
I am absolutely not in the possession of two HN accounts. It strikes me as not completely inconceivable that someone else finds your posts on this topic, which seem to represent an internal dialogue as much as an attempt to communicate, irritating.
- berntb 10y ago
  So, you agree that only a pathetic loser without cohones would downvote both old and new comments a bunch of times, when losing an argument...? :-) (And if you wan't to argue that you could answer the argument, you had a few chances already.) Edit: The quick downvotes after a few minutes on this old story shows that justin66 really think only pathetic losers without a spine systematically downvote someones comments when they lack arguments.
detaro 10y ago
> Easy to find for HN mods Then write the mods an e-mail instead of hoping they read your comments.
sctb 10y ago
The guidelines ask us not to complain about downvotes in the first place, but it's definitely not OK to attack and accuse other users like this here. Please stop. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

by berntb 10y ago

justin66 10y ago

Now that I know that not all of what you've written is meant to be taken seriously, I really have no idea what point you're trying to get across, aside from some vague pro-Israel, anti-Palestine thing. My mistake for responding to a message ending in ":-)" in the first place.

berntb 10y ago
Since you lack serious arguments -- the closest are that I had a ":-)" three comments ago and personal attacks -- we can close this. (And of course it is just a coincidence that I get 7++ downvotes on old comments and 5+ downvotes on new comments just a few minutes after you get angry because you totally lack answers. :-) ) Edit: DanBC do have a point, I have a history of easily being trolled when people without arguments start discussin person instead etc. I will think about that in the future.
- DanBC 10y ago
  >And of course it is just a coincidence You're getting downvotes, and flags, because you are being rude and aggressive.
  - berntb 10y ago
    I'll add a comment here so DanBC sees it. You have a point, I am easily trolled when people lack arguments and start discussing person. Regarding earlier comments... I got mainly upvotes, until an hour ago. I have argued, a year or two ago, that this subject have to much emotional attachments and doesn't work on HN. It is twice as true today, it seems people now often have secondary accounts used for trolling when they lack answers about soemthing they find important.
    - grzm 10y ago
      I don't think what you're seeing is the action of secondary accounts. The tone of a number of your comments has been rude and aggressive, and the accusations of other users is also uncivil. You've been called out by a mod, and at least two other members have commented on your behavior. I've downvoted and flagged a number of your comments as well. You may be right about the topic not being appropriate for HN. Regardless of the behavior of other members—even if you think they're trolling—it's important to be civil. Even more so when the topic is emotional. Otherwise it's just better to refrain from commenting.
      - berntb 10y ago
        OK, thanks. I understand that I over reacted. I have found that I am easily trolled when I have the beginning of allergy troubles. It is better to not comment than to find out the hard way I need anti histamines. Sorry for wasting people's time and energy.
      - berntb 10y ago
        OK, after thinking about this. I have problems with non serious debaters that argue dishonestly. This is a subject where people write dishonest propaganda and where I have read a bit. I can handle a few dishonest debaters, see previous comments, but there were too many here. I guess the hateful people won. :-) (I don't really have any interest in the subject matter, for a few I years I followed my native media with NYT/BBC/Washington Post.)

justin66 10y ago

I am absolutely not in the possession of two HN accounts. It strikes me as not completely inconceivable that someone else finds your posts on this topic, which seem to represent an internal dialogue as much as an attempt to communicate, irritating.

berntb 10y ago
So, you agree that only a pathetic loser without cohones would downvote both old and new comments a bunch of times, when losing an argument...? :-) (And if you wan't to argue that you could answer the argument, you had a few chances already.) Edit: The quick downvotes after a few minutes on this old story shows that justin66 really think only pathetic losers without a spine systematically downvote someones comments when they lack arguments.

detaro 10y ago

> Easy to find for HN mods Then write the mods an e-mail instead of hoping they read your comments.

sctb 10y ago

The guidelines ask us not to complain about downvotes in the first place, but it's definitely not OK to attack and accuse other users like this here. Please stop. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html