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Folks… despite the 'dreadful' link baiting in the title, this is a pretty great article.

by gardano 10y ago

_petronius 10y ago
Nothing linkbaity about it. "Dread" as in "fear of God" is a common theme in western Christianity, especially around Bach's time (and still is in some cases today, cf. the Rastafarian dreadlocks being a symbol of respect for the power of God). And in this sense, "fear" is meant less as "scary haunted house" kind of fear, and more as respect and obedience to the divine power. Also of interest: the etymology of the word "dread"[0]; Fear-God Barebone, the brother of the more famous Praise-God Barebone, for whom the "Barbone's Parliament" during the English Commonwealth takes its name[1][2]; and the theological theory behind the idea of the fear of God[3]. [0]: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=dread http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&searc... [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praise-God_Barebone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praise-God_Barebone [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barebone's_Parliament https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barebone's_Parliament [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_God https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_God
- pvg 10y ago
  The phrase itself is well known and has been kicking around for ages. Samuel Taylor Coleridge's famous drug trip: "And close your eyes with holy dread" But also Wycliffe's Bible, from the late 1300s: "The hooli drede of the Lord dwellith in to world of world"
- defen 10y ago
  Puritans had the best names. Praise-God's son was named "Nicholas If-Jesus-Christ-Had-Not-Died-For-Thee-Thou-Hadst-Been-Damned Barebone"
  - _petronius 10y ago
    Ah, fantastic. Some cultures still do names like that: I once met a woman from Zimbabwe whose name translated as "Merciful Lord", which I thought was pretty cool.
seeekr 10y ago
Upvoted. Despite the sibling comment (+ thread) explaining quite well (thank you) about "dread" and "holy dread", that's not something everyone is knowledgeable about, and as such the title can appear to be "baity". Especially as a non-native speaker, as well as someone not into devotional music and its history, this comment was appreciated, and it was what made me decide to read it, which I'm glad I did! Thanks!

Folks… despite the 'dreadful' link baiting in the title, this is a pretty great article.

by gardano 10y ago

Folks… despite the 'dreadful' link baiting in the title, this is a pretty great article.

Nothing linkbaity about it. "Dread" as in "fear of God" is a common theme in western Christianity, especially around Bach's time (and still is in some cases today, cf. the Rastafarian dreadlocks being a symbol of respect for the power of God). And in this sense, "fear" is meant less as "scary haunted house" kind of fear, and more as respect and obedience to the divine power. Also of interest: the etymology of the word "dread"[0]; Fear-God Barebone, the brother of the more famous Praise-God Barebone, for whom the "Barbone's Parliament" during the English Commonwealth takes its name[1][2]; and the theological theory behind the idea of the fear of God[3]. [0]: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=dread http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&searc... [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praise-God_Barebone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praise-God_Barebone [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barebone's_Parliament https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barebone's_Parliament [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_God https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_God

pvg 10y ago
The phrase itself is well known and has been kicking around for ages. Samuel Taylor Coleridge's famous drug trip: "And close your eyes with holy dread" But also Wycliffe's Bible, from the late 1300s: "The hooli drede of the Lord dwellith in to world of world"
defen 10y ago
Puritans had the best names. Praise-God's son was named "Nicholas If-Jesus-Christ-Had-Not-Died-For-Thee-Thou-Hadst-Been-Damned Barebone"
- _petronius 10y ago
  Ah, fantastic. Some cultures still do names like that: I once met a woman from Zimbabwe whose name translated as "Merciful Lord", which I thought was pretty cool.

seeekr 10y ago

Upvoted. Despite the sibling comment (+ thread) explaining quite well (thank you) about "dread" and "holy dread", that's not something everyone is knowledgeable about, and as such the title can appear to be "baity". Especially as a non-native speaker, as well as someone not into devotional music and its history, this comment was appreciated, and it was what made me decide to read it, which I'm glad I did! Thanks!