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> To China and Iran - facebook is a "disruptive community." To use reddit's language. There is a vast difference between the government banning you and reddit

> To China and Iran - facebook is a "disruptive community." To use reddit's language. There is a vast difference between the government banning you and reddit banning you (which they are not actually doing here, but for the sake of argument). You have the right to free expression. You do not have the right to free expression on someone else's platform. reddit is not the Internet - if reddit does not like what you say, you can set up your own space on the Internet. If the government does not like what you say, then there is literally no legal alternative. That's the difference. Oh, and stop confusing net neutrality with this issue. It's not the same.

volak 10y ago
Fiber lines are someone else's platform. If Comcast was limiting access to huffingtonpost.com it would be their right as its their platform. I don't think I'm confusing anything.
- cmac2992 10y ago
  The fiber example is one of the big reason regulating broadband as a utility was important. It prevents this exact scenario
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internaut 10y ago
> There is a vast difference between the government banning you and reddit banning you (which they are not actually doing here, but for the sake of argument). It isn't all about public vs private. There is another frame to view this subject in which is shared culture. In China the majority of those running the firms agree with the government's positions on Internet use. In the USA, Washington and large parts of the media have identical political perspectives. The problem with this is insidious. Where you're surrounded by like minded people you grow kinds of assumptions that in another context are absolutely crazy. Recently for example I heard a university professor claim biological sex does not exist. Further he claimed all scientists believe that biological sex does not exist. This tends to happen in groups where dissenting opinion has been culled. Isolation does not generate balanced perspective. > You do not have the right to free expression on someone else's platform. reddit is not the Internet The problem with this reasoning is that the entire Net is private. The feeling of the public sphere is a kind of collective illusion similar to how we perceive the Net to be a 'space'. I would hope that doesn't mean the use of a server doesn't have to be contingent on what political views I held yesterday or today.

volak 10y ago

Fiber lines are someone else's platform. If Comcast was limiting access to huffingtonpost.com it would be their right as its their platform. I don't think I'm confusing anything.

cmac2992 10y ago
The fiber example is one of the big reason regulating broadband as a utility was important. It prevents this exact scenario
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internaut 10y ago

> There is a vast difference between the government banning you and reddit banning you (which they are not actually doing here, but for the sake of argument). It isn't all about public vs private. There is another frame to view this subject in which is shared culture. In China the majority of those running the firms agree with the government's positions on Internet use. In the USA, Washington and large parts of the media have identical political perspectives. The problem with this is insidious. Where you're surrounded by like minded people you grow kinds of assumptions that in another context are absolutely crazy. Recently for example I heard a university professor claim biological sex does not exist. Further he claimed all scientists believe that biological sex does not exist. This tends to happen in groups where dissenting opinion has been culled. Isolation does not generate balanced perspective. > You do not have the right to free expression on someone else's platform. reddit is not the Internet The problem with this reasoning is that the entire Net is private. The feeling of the public sphere is a kind of collective illusion similar to how we perceive the Net to be a 'space'. I would hope that doesn't mean the use of a server doesn't have to be contingent on what political views I held yesterday or today.